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I think the other factor here is that anybody who has ever been targeted by the Feds, or fears getting targeted by the Feds has this one gift-wrapped and placed on their doorstep. If you have a business in America you have a certain amount of real FEAR of your government. All it takes is one irrational bureaucratic a-hole to put you in his crosshairs, and your life is basically ruined.

Liberals don't want to face this-but imagine if we gave our more vindictive Statists on this board the power to intimidate and coerce posters they don't like. Can you imagine how -say a Rex-or somebody else completely bereft of respect or a sense of decency-would enjoy tormenting somebody with the full weight of State coercion? And that is what small government types see here-a Government Agency that has all the cards on it's side that is enjoying CRUSHING these people a little too much. It does start to be tyrannical (in style at least) at some point. And I think we have passed that point here.

That's where your member of congress goes to bat for you. They love shite like this, and Harry Reid isn't the only guy representing Nevada. The other senator is a Republican. Where is he in this situation? Guys who get into jams like this tend to be so off the grid that they're not connected in any meaningful way to the normal channels of getting these kinds of issues resolved, so it festers along until it blows up.

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Posted by Lsupimp

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Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:04 am to Jim Rockford

Agreed. But The State has to account for people who are "off the grid". They can't take a one size fits all approach. They have to enforce the Rule Of Law and yet exercise reason and proportionality. And these people are not crazed or homicidal or a threat to their neighbors. They are just essentially defiant. And while there are numerous facts against them, there are also numerous arguments in their favor.

Maybe The State shouldn't win every battle. Maybe the should wait until the stubborn and free old geezer passes and deal with his heirs.

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Posted by Lakeboy7

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Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:06 am to Jim Rockford

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That's where your member of congress goes to bat for you. They love shite like this, and Harry Reid isn't the only guy representing Nevada.

How dare you imply we use the system in place! A system that has worked over and over again, are you crazy! There has to be violence and blood.

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Posted by Jim Rockford

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Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:08 am to Jim Rockford

By the way, a big looming issue out there is a move by Las Vegas, in association with some private venture capitalists, to buy up all the water rights in Northern Nevada. As that moves forward, a lot of those rural anti government types are going to be viewing the feds in a much friendlier light, because the feds are the only ones who can stop Vegas from taking all their water.

Things in the west are way more complicated than anybody's pundit of choice would have you believe.

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