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re: Can someone give cliffs on what ppl keep referring to Waco
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
We don't even know if Koresh was really molesting anyone. That's the government's convenient slander against anyone they want the public to dislike. He was't ever tried because they killed everyone instead, so we never saw the evidence of heard his defense.
That said, the raid wasn't even about that. The raid was over the gun stash the Feds had been tipped off about. Instead of just arresting ol Dave for something else when he was out and then searching the leader-less compound in normal fashion, the Feds raided the place unannounced, guns blazing, and SURPRISE! the people they surprise-attacked fought back.
The siege ended when they put a tank turret through the wall, pumped the place full of flammable gas, and set it on fire, killing all the kids.
That said, the raid wasn't even about that. The raid was over the gun stash the Feds had been tipped off about. Instead of just arresting ol Dave for something else when he was out and then searching the leader-less compound in normal fashion, the Feds raided the place unannounced, guns blazing, and SURPRISE! the people they surprise-attacked fought back.
The siege ended when they put a tank turret through the wall, pumped the place full of flammable gas, and set it on fire, killing all the kids.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 6:40 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:49 am to Cooter Davenport
It was cs gas...hundreds of canisters of it. There were documented deaths back in the 80s from cs gas use, yet they used it, knowing children were there. Atf agents were undercover and target practiced with koresh in the days leading up to the raid. After the raid, he asked to speak to one of those agents. He knew they were undercover and still went shooting with them. This is on recording. Pictures and video the gov made went missing. Two people were ultimately fired, only to be rehired with backpay and their records expunged. Agents had multiple opportunities to arrest koresh alone, away from the compound in the weeks before the raid. Atf had upcoming appropriations hearings and had invited media to the raid. Likely to make a big spectacle about seizing all those bad guns to prove why they needed more money. Watch waco:rulea of engagement if you want to learn more. Its on youtub and i linked it with the 60th post in the other thread. Also look at the waco page on hardylaw.net. it has alot of info.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 6:50 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:57 am to Cooter Davenport
Did you ever consider that when an airplane crashes the government agency immediately steps, in ropes of the area, and meticulously goes through the wreakage, searching for clues. But when there is a disaster like Ruby Ridge, Waco, or Oklahoma City, they move in and bulldoze the wreakage as soon as possible.
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