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re: An Insider Reflects on the Waco Standoff
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:56 pm to Hawkeye95
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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The children were abused. He was having sex with 14 year olds. Now the ATF had no right to go in based off of that. But those kids were being sexually abused, even if it was legal.
Right. And the best way to help these children in this situation was to fire 400 cannisters of CS gas (which is flamable) into the compound....rather than, as it has been pointed out, picked the dude up at Kroger on one of his weekely errands.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:00 pm to a want
I barely remember Waco, was in middle school I think. From my perspective now it just looks like ridiculous govt over reaction to a situation.
But drumming up a boogie man to justify budget overruns/MIC style expenditures is an old Beltway tradition.
But drumming up a boogie man to justify budget overruns/MIC style expenditures is an old Beltway tradition.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:01 pm to a want
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Right. And the best way to help these children in this situation was to fire 400 cannisters of CS gas (which is flamable) into the compound....rather than, as it has been pointed out, picked the dude up at Kroger on one of his weekely errands.
oh, it was a total CF! And managed terribly by the ATF, FBI and justice. There was no reason to kill all of those people.
but let's not pretend like David Koresh was some sort of good person. He was a cult leader that enjoyed fricking young women, usually with their parents consenting. That is some fricked up shite right there. Can you imagine saying to some dude, go ahead and frick my 14 year old daughter, its cool.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:07 pm to a want
Instances like that one, whether you be a R or a D, should make us all realize what government in THIS COUNTRY is capable of doing.
I bet if you asked the FBI and ATF officers two months prior if they would terminally endanger innocent children if ordered to by their bosses, or quit....to a man they would have likely all said they would quit.
At the end of the day, law enforcement personnel and military personnel have to put food on their own tables and pay their own bills.
The result is that while they may like you, they love themselves (just like us all).
When starring down the possibility of losing their job due to insubordination or court marshal, the vast majority are going to carry out their orders IMO.
Elections really do have consequences, when those orders come from on high.
I truly believe at any given time, we are one presidential election away from the wheels falling off the wagon.
I bet if you asked the FBI and ATF officers two months prior if they would terminally endanger innocent children if ordered to by their bosses, or quit....to a man they would have likely all said they would quit.
At the end of the day, law enforcement personnel and military personnel have to put food on their own tables and pay their own bills.
The result is that while they may like you, they love themselves (just like us all).
When starring down the possibility of losing their job due to insubordination or court marshal, the vast majority are going to carry out their orders IMO.
Elections really do have consequences, when those orders come from on high.
I truly believe at any given time, we are one presidential election away from the wheels falling off the wagon.
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