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re: Powerful forces all lining up to stop St. George

Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:44 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:44 am to
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At least Talbot doesn't live in Bogalusa or Gonsalez.Hope you not implying that I live in of those cities - been a resident of LAWO since 1990.


Just saying that because representatives from those cities are helping to stop SG.

If Talbot is pushing for SG, at least he is from EBR Parish.

BTW, what the City-Parish is handling that bridge repair borders on the criminal.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 9:48 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:45 am to
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At least Talbot doesn't live in Bogalusa or Gonsalez.

You never mention that Lionel Rainey, The Third, who is the chief spokesperson and organizer for St George, doesn't live in St George.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:46 am to
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You never mention that Lionel Rainey, The Third, who is the chief spokesperson and organizer for St George, doesn't live in St George


I see Rainey as a hired gun. Nothing more.

And there is no need for me to mention him, you do every chance you get.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 9:49 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:49 am to
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I see Rainey as a hired gun.
But, I thought all of the St George leaders are merely volunteers and that's why they failed to appear at or canceled out from attending public forums to discuss the issues.

At least, that's what you and other posters have consistently said.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:50 am to
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I see Rainey as a hired gun.But, I thought all of the St George leaders are merely volunteers and that's why they failed to appear at or canceled out from attending public forums to discuss the issues. At least, that's what you and other posters have consistently said.


Ask them, I never knew why they canceled.

Do you have any comment about how Democrats from all over are ganging up on SG? I thought you were a small govt. type???
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:53 am to
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I see Rainey as a hired gun. Nothing more.

And there is no need for me to mention him, you do every chance you get.

You don't think Rainey's non-residency in St George is relevant to the discussion? Especially when YOU bring up non-residents who oppose St George in your OP??

FWIW, I don't see any of the legislative proposed changes in the process to be onerous. In fact, all of the proposed changes are very reasonable in my opinion.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:56 am to
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I thought you were a small govt. type???
So you think my opposing the creation of more government conflicts with my philosophy of small government?

Are we now in Bizarro World, Jerry?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:58 am to
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You don't think Rainey's non-residency in St George is relevant to the discussion? Especially when YOU bring up non-residents who oppose St George in your OP??


Rainey is hired by SG proponents to represent them. Are you saying the Bogalusa and the Gonzales rep. are bought and paid for too?

quote:

FWIW, I don't see any of the legislative proposed changes in the process to be onerous. In fact, all of the proposed changes are very reasonable in my opinion.


You see nothing wrong with changing the rules in the middle of the game, or a two year moratorium on ALL incorporations statewide????

BTW, the law they want changed was enacted in 1898. Now all of a sudden it's a bad law and all these people statewide are involved!!!!

Again as a small govt. type, and a sellf proclaimed conservative, I would think you'd acknowledge that stuff like this is dirty pool. But hey............ maybe I shouldn't assume, right???
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:01 am to
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So you think my opposing the creation of more government conflicts with my philosophy of small government? Are we now in Bizarro World, Jerry?


When big govt. people like Kip Holden, big govt. forces like the Democrat party, etc. are trying to stop local voters from self determination, yes I see that as big govt.

Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:03 am to
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It's wanting to enjoy the benefits of Baton Rouge... its jobs, its collegiate opportunities, its infrastructure, etc... without having to pay for it.


Jobs? You mean all of the engineers, etc who work in the Petro Chemical Industry east of EBR?

Infrastructure? Yeah, everybody knows BR infrastructure is second to none.

These Kip Holden/BRAC toadies keep it up, and they'll push people like me to vote for the breakaway.

Collegiate opportunities, notwithstanding nobody knows what you're talking about, there's one little tidbit you've ignored. LSU and Southern are state universities.


Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:06 am to
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Since you've been on this board, how many times have you moved?

I've had a house in Baton Rouge (and I'm proud to call it Baton Rouge even though it's technically not within the city limits) for the past seven and a half years.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:08 am to
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big govt. forces like the Democrat party
Ben Nevers is a conservative legislator, as anyone is who is elected from Washington Parish. He owns his own electrical contracting company and has been a conservative voice in the legislature for years, first as a representative and now as a senator.

A couple of years ago he won the award of "Outstanding Family Advocate" given by the Louisiana Family Forum which promotes traditional family values based on biblical principles.

Nevers is probably more conservative than any of the BR Republican legislators.

Take your D/R blinders off and actually learn about someone before you characterize them out of your ignorance.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:18 am to
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Take your anti SG blinders off and actually learn about someone before you characterize them out of your ignorance.


FIFY

Sorry, when I see Kip Holden, and three Dems in the state legislature all lining up with bills to block the SG movement, I am very suspicious despite you comments about Mr. Nevers.

None of this is an accident, you should know that.

I did some quick checking, and I find it ironic that Nevers wants a constitutional amendment to increaser the minimum wage so La. citizens can vote on it, but he doesn't want SGeans to vote on incorporation.

quote:

“It’s a constitutional amendment, so that would allow the people of Louisiana to determine if they want to raise the minimum wage to $9.50,” Nevers said. “It does have exemptions for employers who have 50 or fewer employees and for students who are employed by school systems across the state. It also specifies that the tips waiters or waitresses receive can be used to meet the minimum wage.


Nevers was also opposed to Jindal passing on Medicaid expansion. He wants more Federal control over La. healthcare. I wouldn't define this character as a conservative. Maybe you would, but I wouldn't.

This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:37 am to
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but he doesn't want SGeans to vote on incorporation.

Aren't you opposed to allowing all residents of EBR from voting on SG incorporation?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:44 am to
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Aren't you opposed to allowing all residents of EBR from voting on SG incorporation?



Is there any valid reason for a group to incorporate and separate?

I'm not asking you to rehash your opposition on THIS issue. Just, wondering if there is any reason for which you would agree.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:45 am to
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Aren't you opposed to allowing all residents of EBR from voting on SG incorporation?


I am opposed to changing the law in midstream.

I didn't vote on Central incorporating, it was none of my business. Do you think all the parish should have voted? I don't.

And I don't think all of the parish should vote on the SG issue either.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:45 am to
The palms of politicians are getting greased at warp speed I'm sure.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:46 am to
Yeah, sure. I was in favor of Central incorporating. Central was a long-established community that already had the tenets of being a town but without the legal standing.

SG does not fit that description. Not even close.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:47 am to
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Yeah, sure. I was in favor of Central incorporating. Central was a long-established community that already had the tenets of being a town but without the legal standing.

SG does not fit that description. Not even close.


Fair enough.

Thanks
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:49 am to
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in midstream.
What midstream? What papers have been filed on the incorporation of SG?

quote:

I don't think all of the parish should vote on the SG issue either.

Why are you against hearing from the will of the people affected by a SG incorporation? Are you that autocratic and anti-democracy?
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