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re: Killing Americans... why Bobby Jindal needs to stop his lies regarding Medicaid
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:00 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:00 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
So do you want me to go into the 140 page paper that discusses the framework in much more detail?
Go ahead, but we've already done that... in fact, I think it was myself that first posted a link to it here.
You made the same mistake then as you're doing now. You don't know how to read.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:00 pm to Rex
quote:
Your attempts to rile me up are really funny.
i know, deep down, you're boiling with rage
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:04 pm to Choctaw
quote:Easy now. Let's not stoop to insulting a man's dog.
that ugly fricking dog than anyone else in his family
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:04 pm to BBONDS25
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Ouch.
Ouch, what?
You obviously don't know the difference between these two concepts:
coverage for major medical
versus
coverage for major medical, only
Please tell me you can see a difference. Please.
Do you also have a problem with things like sets and Venn diagrams? I imagine you do.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:05 pm to Rex
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You made the same mistake then as you're doing now. You don't know how to read.
In the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary...just lie.
Ive used YOUR OWN WORDS to show you the facts. Your inability to understand them does not speak to any quality I may or may not possess. Like I said....do you want to debate or stick to ad hominem attacks against someone vastly more educated than you???
Your last few posts prove you prefer the latter.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:08 pm to Rex
quote:
coverage for major medical
versus
coverage for major medical, only
Please tell me you can see a difference. Please
Thanks....the very next sentence says:
"The degree of financial protection can be debated" Obviously leaving the door open for Catastrophic ONLY plans.
try and keep up
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:11 pm to BBONDS25
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"The degree of financial protection can be debated" Obviously leaving the door open for Catastrophic ONLY plans. try and keep up
"Leaving the door open for" versus your previous "called for".
Congratulations! I'm very excited here... that's the first inkling you've shown that the Heritage paper did not call for Catastrophic only plans.
You're making progress.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:16 pm to Rex
Now, more on that "leaving the door open for".
Yes, indeed, the Heritage Foundation left the door open for the government to choose MAJOR MEDICAL ONLY as the mandated policy. But it did not call for MAJOR MEDICAL ONLY policies. It said that major medical should be included as the minimum level of coverage within the final mandate that could be determined by debate.
It's truly, truly sad that you can't see the difference.
The debate is over. The minimal financial protection that the government chose after debate includes things over and above major medical. That's perfectly consistent with what the HF called for.
Yes, indeed, the Heritage Foundation left the door open for the government to choose MAJOR MEDICAL ONLY as the mandated policy. But it did not call for MAJOR MEDICAL ONLY policies. It said that major medical should be included as the minimum level of coverage within the final mandate that could be determined by debate.
It's truly, truly sad that you can't see the difference.
The debate is over. The minimal financial protection that the government chose after debate includes things over and above major medical. That's perfectly consistent with what the HF called for.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:20 pm to Rex
Rex said the debate is over so bye yall
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:24 pm to Rex
quote:Who has made that assertion Rex?
Obamacare DID NOT DO AWAY away with plans that cover catastrophes.
quote:I've made efforts to be polite here as this is obviously subject matter in my wheelhouse, far more than it is in yours; but patience does have its limits.
It's truly sad you can't see the difference.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:25 pm to Rex
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His objection then boils down to one fact that annoys him: that more people in Louisiana would be covered at government expense. That's an ideological rather than a practical objection, one that has flown the coop when most of the rest of America is all too willing to accept the upside of the ACA.
You're an idiot. His objections is that sure, the Federal gov't will see the match in funds for the first ten (10) years of the expansion.
Then the burden falls back onto the state to provide the increase in the matching funds, which we do not have money in the budget to provide.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:36 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Then the burden falls back onto the state to provide the increase in the matching funds, which we do not have money in the budget to provide.
That's a ridiculous argument. For one thing, the state will be on the hook for only one tenth of the cost, and if the state can't provide that one tenth when that bridge is crossed then it can't and it won't, anyway.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:38 pm to Rex
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and if the state can't provide that one tenth when that bridge is crossed then it can't and it won't, anyway.
Then you will get on here, again, and claim that Jindal is trying to exterminate poor minorities because he wants to protect rich people.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:45 pm to Rex
quote:
That's a ridiculous argument. For one thing, the state will be on the hook for only one tenth of the cost, and if the state can't provide that one tenth when that bridge is crossed then it can't and it won't, anyway.
Really. You want to argue with me about this. I just told you the reason. The state will only have a reduced liability for a term, then their liability rises. Once you're in, you're in forever.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:49 pm to Cajun Revolution
quote:
The state will only have a reduced liability for a term, then their liability rises.
The state's liability under the law never exceeds 10% of the cost.
quote:
Once you're in, you're in forever.
If you can't pay for something to continue it ends, idiot.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:50 pm to Rex
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If you can't pay for something to continue it ends, idiot.
So, if poor people can't pay for health care to continue..IT ENDS!!
/thread.
Thanks for participating.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:52 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
BOOM SHACKA LACKA !!!
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:52 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
So, if poor people can't pay for health care to continue..IT ENDS!!
/thread.
Thanks for participating.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:53 pm to Rex
quote:
Now, more on that "leaving the door open for".
Yes, indeed, the Heritage Foundation left the door open for the government to choose MAJOR MEDICAL ONLY as the mandated policy. But it did not call for MAJOR MEDICAL ONLY policies. It said that major medical should be included as the minimum level of coverage within the final mandate that could be determined by debate.
It's truly, truly sad that you can't see the difference.
The debate is over. The minimal financial protection that the government chose after debate includes things over and above major medical. That's perfectly consistent with what the HF called for
Do you know what a bootstrap argument is?
Does it matter to you the heading under which the paragraph quoted is:
"Every resident of the U.S. must, by law, be enrolled in an adequate health care plan to cover major health care costs." (what you defined as catastrophic plans)?
So every plan must cover major health care costs....agreed? This is not a limit...but a baseline....agreed?
Lets look at page 58, shall we?
"As explained in Chapter 2, workers would be required by law to obtain adequate insurance to cover major- or 'catastrophic"-family medical bills"
Page 59:
"Ideally, consumers should purchase as much possible of their routine medical care out-of-pocket and use health insurance only to cover very expensive and unpredictable illnesses."
Keep digging Rex..
OK...now lets look at some other aspects, and you can tell me how it fits with Obamacare.
Page 35:
"Thus if the ailments of the system are to be cured, the root cause must be addressed. Simply adding new programs or introducing another layer of control will fail to correct the underlying problem"
You need more?
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