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re: Engineers/Construction Workers?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:09 pm to HeavyCore
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:09 pm to HeavyCore
Well this thread kinda took-off.
Alot of people are harping on a lack of work ethic with the young engineers. This could be part of the issue, but I don't think it's the main problem.
The problem, like I mentioned, is these kids have been so droned into their Excel and their calculators they just don't have a clue what they're building/designing anymore. It seems in the past that engineers were the guys who worked as mechanics and laborers in high school and then were good enough to study a little harder in college.
Now, however, they just grab kids who are good at math and science and make them engineers. I know I used to feel (and still feel at times) wholy inept compared to some of the construction guys I work with and especially the old engineers at my company. My dad or any of the older engineers are always talking about working on their cars and rebuilding engines and blah blah blah. I consider myself decently handy for today's day and age, but I'm lost when most of those guys start talking.
As someone mentioned, they were just tinkerers. Yea they're smart, but that wasn't what defined them. Thank God my dad taught me how to do 95% of the things I know how to do, because compared to the rest of my graduating class I looked like I'd been in the industry for decades.
It will never change as eductional institutions now drive the majority of decisions young adults make, but it would be nice if there was more of an emphasis on the type of students you push towards engineering. The majority of the kids I see coming out should be math majors or chemistry or physics majors. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but engineering is about the application of these discilines not the theoretical study of them.
That kid was sweating his arse off searching through every report in our system to try to tell him if a transformer that was a hundred yards from him had been installed.
Alot of people are harping on a lack of work ethic with the young engineers. This could be part of the issue, but I don't think it's the main problem.
The problem, like I mentioned, is these kids have been so droned into their Excel and their calculators they just don't have a clue what they're building/designing anymore. It seems in the past that engineers were the guys who worked as mechanics and laborers in high school and then were good enough to study a little harder in college.
Now, however, they just grab kids who are good at math and science and make them engineers. I know I used to feel (and still feel at times) wholy inept compared to some of the construction guys I work with and especially the old engineers at my company. My dad or any of the older engineers are always talking about working on their cars and rebuilding engines and blah blah blah. I consider myself decently handy for today's day and age, but I'm lost when most of those guys start talking.
As someone mentioned, they were just tinkerers. Yea they're smart, but that wasn't what defined them. Thank God my dad taught me how to do 95% of the things I know how to do, because compared to the rest of my graduating class I looked like I'd been in the industry for decades.
It will never change as eductional institutions now drive the majority of decisions young adults make, but it would be nice if there was more of an emphasis on the type of students you push towards engineering. The majority of the kids I see coming out should be math majors or chemistry or physics majors. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but engineering is about the application of these discilines not the theoretical study of them.
That kid was sweating his arse off searching through every report in our system to try to tell him if a transformer that was a hundred yards from him had been installed.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:17 pm to FootballNostradamus
While I see where you are coming from and have experienced similar situations, I'm not sure age has anything to do with it. You have practical /efficient engineers and those that want to design space ships on every job. The construction industry is not a good fit for the detail oriented while the first group is, due to cost/schedules and the nature of the work. On the other hand technology advancements have made us all lazier people to some degree.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:05 pm to FootballNostradamus
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The problem, like I mentioned, is these kids have been so droned into their Excel and their calculators they just don't have a clue what they're building/designing anymore. It seems in the past that engineers were the guys who worked as mechanics and laborers in high school and then were good enough to study a little harder in college.
Engineering school will supply you with the fundamental knowledge, but you learn how to work by having an actual job. Many graduate from college today without ever having had a full time job.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:34 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Thank God my dad taught me how to do 95% of the things I know how to do
it's a different time...kids these days are lazy, entitled, mouthy pricks who have been handed everything and haven't had to do much for it.
I'm sure a lot of those parents who are bringing these kids up today are on this board. Good job people!
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