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re: Pollution Killed 7 Million People Worldwide in 2012, Report Finds

Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:40 am to
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:40 am to
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Exactly. And, at least today, solar and wind only would mean a LOT less of the things that save people.

I think you misunderstand what I mean by "investment". It doesn't mean dumping all existing technologies in liue of existing green technologies. It means investing $ to improve the efficiency of existing green technologies.

Think about how difficult it is to get oil out of the ground and turn it into gas for your car. You have to find where it is. You have to drill thousands of feet underground to reach it. You have to pump it out and store it or pipe it to a centralized location. Then it has to be shipped (possibly overseas) to a refinery. Then it has to be refined. Then it has to be trucked to a distribution station where it is finally sold to you for a measly $3/gallon ...which could transport you 5 times farther than it could 50 years a.go There have been incredible breakthroughs in efficiency in this process. It's pretty damn impressive.

Why is it so difficult to think we can't improve the efficiency of solar or wind energy? The industry is what? 15 yeasr old.
Posted by SettleDown
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:47 am to
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I think you misunderstand what I mean by "investment". It doesn't mean dumping all existing technologies in liue of existing green technologies. It means investing $ to improve the efficiency of existing green technologies.


I understood. I simply took issue with a stat that is flatly false. In order to calculate how many people total are dead due to a cause, one must know if that cause has any SAVING effects also. We'll call that X.

Hence, a valid stat would say the total number dead today because of polluting technologies is 7M - X.

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:48 am to
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Why is it so difficult to think we can't improve the efficiency of solar or wind energy?


The one possible problem with your pov is say we drop oil, coal, natural gas, etc. type energies that comes out of the ground. Just how many solar panels, wind turbines and any other above ground sources of energy will dot the countryside in order to provide all the fossil fuel energies now being used to provide energy at this day and time?

I would think that it wouldn't be a breathtaking pastoral picture.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:23 pm to
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Why is it so difficult to think we can't improve the efficiency of solar or wind energy?


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