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re: Pollution Killed 7 Million People Worldwide in 2012, Report Finds

Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:29 am to
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:29 am to
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Pollution isn't saving those people. Technology is saving them
The same tech that pollutes.
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Technology generally must be powered by something...coal, petroleum, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.

Exactly. And, at least today, solar and wind only would mean a LOT less of the things that save people.

Hence, if one is going say certain tech is polluting and therefore killing 7 million, then it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to know what effect not having said pollution would have.

If you don't know the latter, the former is literally a meaningless number. If you don't have the latter, you might think simply reducing the former is good all by itself.

But, if you COULD wave a magic wand TODAY and suddenly, only clean energy we are able to use today was used, people most certainly WOULD DIE. Let's not pretend we don't know that.

Do we want cleaner energy? Yep. But, I don't need to be scared into it because I also know that there are people EVERY WINTER who would be dead if current tech wasn't being used.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:40 am to
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Exactly. And, at least today, solar and wind only would mean a LOT less of the things that save people.

I think you misunderstand what I mean by "investment". It doesn't mean dumping all existing technologies in liue of existing green technologies. It means investing $ to improve the efficiency of existing green technologies.

Think about how difficult it is to get oil out of the ground and turn it into gas for your car. You have to find where it is. You have to drill thousands of feet underground to reach it. You have to pump it out and store it or pipe it to a centralized location. Then it has to be shipped (possibly overseas) to a refinery. Then it has to be refined. Then it has to be trucked to a distribution station where it is finally sold to you for a measly $3/gallon ...which could transport you 5 times farther than it could 50 years a.go There have been incredible breakthroughs in efficiency in this process. It's pretty damn impressive.

Why is it so difficult to think we can't improve the efficiency of solar or wind energy? The industry is what? 15 yeasr old.
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