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re: Where we screwed up regarding Ukraine

Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16777 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:15 pm to
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I thought we were FOR democracy?


LINK

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The referendum process was a travesty. Thousands of invading soldiers, no campaigning to hear differing views, no choice on the ballot for the status quo, intimidation of opponents, and a lightning-fast schedule after the local government is overthrown under the watch of armed men in unmarked camouflage fatigues. Democracy? You tell me.


this is telling:

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Before the propaganda campaign, a poll reported in The Washington Post found a majority of Crimeans were not exactly yearning to join Russia. More than half said their homeland was Crimea, and 35% said Ukraine. About 12 % of Crimeans are Muslim Tatars who despise Russia. About one-quarter are ethnic Ukrainians. You can bet they feel absolutely no affection for Russia today.


but at gunpoint 96% vote to join Russia.

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In this twilight zone of make-believe, Russian troops invade after removing the insignias from their uniforms and Putin explains, "You can go to a store and buy a uniform," claiming they are local "self-defense forces." Maybe Crimean shops also sell machine guns and armored personnel carriers. In this world of double-speak and misinformation, Moscow is manipulating the message, intimidating, twisting facts and lying -- the more absurd the propaganda the better.




This is why we should care:

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Look for claims of "requests for protection" from Moscow. After all, how can Moscow not help. And ignore the Russian agents sowing unrest. The unrest is the required pretext. Russia will come and "pacify." This tactic was not invented by Putin; it left a fetid track in the history of European empire-building, ethnic cleansing and warfare.


This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57438 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
So we should be more concerned about the disenfranchisement of people across the globe, possibly using military force to protect them...

but don't seem to care about our own disenfranchisement in the USA, our own votes being canceled out by illegals etc that don't need voter ids.

We are concerned for their freedoms but sit idly by while our own rights are eroding away?
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 3:26 pm
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