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re: Where we screwed up regarding Ukraine
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:51 pm to deltaland
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:51 pm to deltaland
quote:The U.S. never promised that.
It starts when we promised to protect Ukraine if they destroyed their nukes.
The agreement was "the United States of America, Russia, and the United Kingdom signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, pledging to respect Ukraine territorial integrity." [link=(agreement with ukraine to give up its nukes)]LINK[/link]
There was no language in the agreement which committed any of the three parties to defend or "protect" Ukraine's sovereignty.
Russia violated its pledge to "respect" Ukraine's territorial integrity.
The U.S. has not violated the agreement.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 1:59 pm to LSURussian
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Russia violated its pledge to "respect" Ukraine's territorial integrity.
The U.S. has not violated the agreement.
Russia may have physically violated it with their own troops, but please don't deny that the US was violating the agreement with our hands on approach to controlling their government for our benefit. It's a major economic and military win for the west if we can get into Ukraine.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:01 pm to LSURussian
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Russia violated its pledge to "respect" Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Regardless of fraudulent voting, which we CAN'T prove, if an area (on the other side of the world) votes overwhelmingly to join another country who are we to step in and tell them they can't?
Is our government THAT arrogant that they believe they can take not only the freedom of the American people but the freedom of people clear across the globe?
I thought we were FOR democracy?
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:07 pm to LSURussian
That's my point, I'm not saying we have to intervene militarily but by being a part of the agreement we are obligated to be involved somehow, likely with sanctions on Russia that could negatively affect our economy. Should have let Ukraine have nukes, then their territorial integrity would be respected without relying solely on "promises" from countries who never keep promises. Peace through strength
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:33 pm to LSURussian
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There was no language in the agreement which committed any of the three parties to defend or "protect" Ukraine's sovereignty.
Russia violated its pledge to "respect" Ukraine's territorial integrity.
The U.S. has not violated the agreement.
Which is exactly why Ukraine should have a nuclear arsenal returned to their country.
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