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re: I want Putin to win but not hurt Obama in doing it.

Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 pm to
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by that logic, i assume you wouldn't mind the russians rolling into poland and taking over.


I wrote that he should have influence over the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics. Poland is in NATO. Putin won't invade a NATO country. We have a deal with Russia that goes back to Bush I. No former part of the USSR with the exception of the Baltics will ever be in NATO.

If he wants to push around Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan and others it's no big deal to us. Name one strategic interest we have in Ukraine? We have a NATO ally in Turkey to keep the Russia black sea fleet contained.
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5509 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:42 pm to
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I wrote that he should have influence over the former USSR with the exception of the Baltics. Poland is in NATO. Putin won't invade a NATO country. We have a deal with Russia that goes back to Bush I. No former part of the USSR with the exception of the Baltics will ever be in NATO.

If he wants to push around Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan and others it's no big deal to us. Name one strategic interest we have in Ukraine? We have a NATO ally in Turkey to keep the Russia black sea fleet contained.

poland had been under russian control for much longer than it's ever been a member of nato

plus russia has a duty to defend its citizens and territory in kaliningrad, which is surrounded by hostile nato member states like poland and lithuania.
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