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re: LSU Basketball Individual FG Percentages

Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by Britgirl
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:52 pm to
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if you look at only the stats you would think mickey is a good defender, but in reality he is one of the worst defenders on the team. and I'm not sure what defensive stats for quarterman you are looking at that are impressive.


Exactly.

Looking at stats alone can be so deceptive because they don't show the details of the flow of the game in any way.
Mickey gets a lot of blocks, but he just swats away at balls/defenders as well. His stats show great amount of blocks. Does that mean he's a great defender? Everyone knows it takes more than blocks to make a good defender.

Likewise, it's dangerous to say what TQ's ability/productivity is, from such a small sampling. He's played relatively few minutes, so results are skewed.
To me the only way this works, is if you're comparing similar minutes and similar positions.

Perception-wise I think Tim comes out in the negative, both offensively and defensively, by virtue of how many bad decisions he makes.
These decisions may equate to turn overs, but not directly. None of this is reflected in stats.

I say stats are useful, but put them aside when you look at how VALUABLE a player is to your team, by what he does, how hard he plays, how he inspires, how many turnovers does he create?, how clutch is he down the stretch at free throws?, or game ending shots? etc.
NBA analysts call these "the intangibles" which may never be reflected in the statisticians records, but are evident when you actually watch a game unfold.
Posted by TNTigerman
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Looking at stats alone can be so deceptive because they don't show the details of the flow of the game in any way. Mickey gets a lot of blocks, but he just swats away at balls/defenders as well. His stats show great amount of blocks. Does that mean he's a great defender? Everyone knows it takes more than blocks to make a good defender. Likewise, it's dangerous to say what TQ's ability/productivity is, from such a small sampling. He's played relatively few minutes, so results are skewed. To me the only way this works, is if you're comparing similar minutes and similar positions. Perception-wise I think Tim comes out in the negative, both offensively and defensively, by virtue of how many bad decisions he makes. These decisions may equate to turn overs, but not directly. None of this is reflected in stats. I say stats are useful, but put them aside when you look at how VALUABLE a player is to your team, by what he does, how hard he plays, how he inspires, how many turnovers does he create?, how clutch is he down the stretch at free throws?, or game ending shots? etc. NBA analysts call these "the intangibles" which may never be reflected in the statisticians records, but are evident when you actually watch a game unfold.

The guy can't shoot.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:01 pm to
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Mickey gets a lot of blocks, but he just swats away at balls/defenders as well. His stats show great amount of blocks. Does that mean he's a great defender? Everyone knows it takes more than blocks to make a good defender.


Exactly Brit. I keep seeing folks say our little guards are the problem on defense but if you really watch our defense that doesn't wash for me.

Our bigs are constantly poorly executing switches and rotations and don't even get me started on their on ball defense.

I see very little if any improvement defensively when the bigger lineups are in the game, zone or man.
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