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Relegation in America
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:07 pm
I'm bored and it's cold and rainy outside and the thread on the new MLS teams has got me thinking of what the best possible way that a relegation/promotion league would work here.
So I propose the question: If the MLS announced that they were implementing a relegation/promotion system and they asked you to draw it up, how would you do it?
This thread is complete conjecture. Just to cover the bases, I know the probability of this to happen is unlikely.
So I propose the question: If the MLS announced that they were implementing a relegation/promotion system and they asked you to draw it up, how would you do it?
This thread is complete conjecture. Just to cover the bases, I know the probability of this to happen is unlikely.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:09 pm to tsmi136
The relegation system would probably end up being something like zonal leagues like they have in the lower leagues in Germany. Southeast/Southwest/Northeast/Northwest/Central
figure out a way to put the winner of each region into a playoff with 1 team earning direct promotion and the 2nd place team playing in a two-legged playoff with the 2nd to last place team in the MLS.
figure out a way to put the winner of each region into a playoff with 1 team earning direct promotion and the 2nd place team playing in a two-legged playoff with the 2nd to last place team in the MLS.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:12 pm to hendersonshands
Very similar to what I said in the other thread. They would have to have a north east/west and a south east/west divisions for the lower leagues to keep them from traveling all across America. Maybe have a playoff between the 3 and 4 teams of the 4
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:13 pm to tsmi136
Well, first things first. MLS wouldn't/couldn't implement pro/rel. USSF would have to.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:16 pm to tsmi136
there would need to be probably 4 regions:
EAST/WEST/SOUTH/NORTH:
1a vs 2b
2a vs 1b
3a vs 4b
4a vs 3b
2-legged ties. Re-seed after the quarterfinal. The winner of the playoff replaces the last place team in the MLS. The runner-up faces the 2nd to last place team in a 2-legged tie.
EAST/WEST/SOUTH/NORTH:
1a vs 2b
2a vs 1b
3a vs 4b
4a vs 3b
2-legged ties. Re-seed after the quarterfinal. The winner of the playoff replaces the last place team in the MLS. The runner-up faces the 2nd to last place team in a 2-legged tie.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:16 pm to tsmi136
Only two divisions would work. MLS,NASL/USL
Revenues would have to split evenly throughout the two tiers. This is the only way American owners would be willing to invest in 2nd tier teams and its also the reason that it will never happen, (Current MLS owners are not going to slice up, an already thin revenue pie, with a table full of 2nd tier teams.)
Say 24 MLS teams and 20 teams in the 2nd division.
Bottom 2 would be relegated. Top 2 would be promoted.
Some form of playoff to determine the two teams promoted out of the 2nd division, maybe even included the bottom two MLS teams in that playoff.
There would have to be a rework on salary/contracts/transfers for the MLS.
Finances are the reason this will never happen but its fun to think about.
Revenues would have to split evenly throughout the two tiers. This is the only way American owners would be willing to invest in 2nd tier teams and its also the reason that it will never happen, (Current MLS owners are not going to slice up, an already thin revenue pie, with a table full of 2nd tier teams.)
Say 24 MLS teams and 20 teams in the 2nd division.
Bottom 2 would be relegated. Top 2 would be promoted.
Some form of playoff to determine the two teams promoted out of the 2nd division, maybe even included the bottom two MLS teams in that playoff.
There would have to be a rework on salary/contracts/transfers for the MLS.
Finances are the reason this will never happen but its fun to think about.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:21 pm to thesoccerfanjax
It would be a hard to see a promotion/relegation system that doesn't benefit the MLS. Methinks that the without MLS approval there's no talks of a new system.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:25 pm to tsmi136
MLS would never agree to it. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. I could see NASL, though, since they for whatever reason see themselves as peers of MLS.
And my point was this would have to be implemented by USSF, not MLS.
And my point was this would have to be implemented by USSF, not MLS.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 5:36 pm to tsmi136
I agree. And on top of that I can assure you no owner would agree on their team being relegated after spending $100 m just to get their foot in the door.
Pro/ rel needs to happen in more of a regional/state set up. The MLS and NASL shouldn't be involved, but the USL could be. USL just expanded tremendously pairing up with MLS reserve sides. Galaxy II is just the first of many full MLS reserve sides that will soon compete. Have the USL be where pro/rel peaks and have it go all the way down to city leagues. This could help teams go through trial and error, build a fan base and get better funded before making the leap to NASL and/or MLS.
There are many regional leagues out there that could participate. Evergreen Premier League, Connecticut Premier League, SoCal Premier League, Texas Premier Spccer League. The list goes on. I would like to see the NPSL extend their season and get away from relying on college athletes to field competitive teams.
It's possible but it needs to be built from the roots up, not vice versa.
Pro/ rel needs to happen in more of a regional/state set up. The MLS and NASL shouldn't be involved, but the USL could be. USL just expanded tremendously pairing up with MLS reserve sides. Galaxy II is just the first of many full MLS reserve sides that will soon compete. Have the USL be where pro/rel peaks and have it go all the way down to city leagues. This could help teams go through trial and error, build a fan base and get better funded before making the leap to NASL and/or MLS.
There are many regional leagues out there that could participate. Evergreen Premier League, Connecticut Premier League, SoCal Premier League, Texas Premier Spccer League. The list goes on. I would like to see the NPSL extend their season and get away from relying on college athletes to field competitive teams.
It's possible but it needs to be built from the roots up, not vice versa.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 6:26 pm to loJic IVOK
quote:
Texas Premier Spccer League
Hey man the Hispanic league has a more proper title than that. Give it the respect it deserves.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 6:28 pm to tsmi136
MLS would either have to expand a huge amount and split in 2 or buy one of the other leagues and have MLS and MLS2 or something. Could not be done any other way.
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