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re: 70% of Young Americans think we should be allowed to own Assualt Rifles
Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:43 am to Clames
Posted on 3/7/14 at 12:43 am to Clames
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"Assault weapon" is a deliberately nebulous term that gives laws using it broad discretion in defining it.
Seems pretty specific to me.
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In this expired U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name, and other semi-automatic firearms because they possessed a minimum set from the following list of features:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher mount
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.
I'm no expert on firearms obviously - but it seems like the above list is specific enough that you could definitively say whether a given firearm qualified under that law as an "assault weapon". If you disagree - please tell me which of the above terms are "nebulous". Thanks.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 12:44 am
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 4:18 am to SpidermanTUba
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Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock Pistol grip Bayonet mount Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one Grenade launcher mount Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
So a .22 can be an assault weapon? That's how stuipid that definition is.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:56 am to SpidermanTUba
You're not an expert on hardly anything but still you try. If you actually knew about the law AND the firearms it targeted you'd understand that concept of using cosmetic features to define something as an "assault weapon" is idiotic at best. Start with flash supressor, how would you know the difference between that and a linear compensator or a muzzle brake? You, since you lack the technical knowledge, won't and those that quote the law didn't feel necessary to define the term such that any muzzle device could be called a "flash supressor".
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:44 am to SpidermanTUba
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I'm no expert on firearms obviously - but it seems like the above list is specific enough that you could definitively say whether a given firearm qualified under that law as an "assault weapon". If you disagree - please tell me which of the above terms are "nebulous". Thanks
The entire term was made up to ban a certain group of weapons based on cosmetic features.
All of those features listed are cosmetic. How can a cosmetic feature make something more lethal?
And weapons are inherently lethal - so, inventing a term to ban weapons that have been in private hands for over a century seems somewhat of a stretch.
The first definition was set up to specifically ban AK-47 and AR-15 variants. The second was to ban the Tec-9, and the third was mainly the Spas-12 and Streetsweeper.
The way the legislation was drafted was that Feinstein (and others) and her staffers leafed through a catalog of firearms and picked out those they wanted to ban based on appearance (this is not seriously in dispute) - figured out the most features they had in common and voila.
The very definition of nebulous.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:45 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:32 am to SpidermanTUba
You have to realize that the laws in this country are usually drafted by those with an agenda that may have very little experience with the items they are against. They just know they hate them. Most of the whack jobs cooking up gun legislation probably couldn't tell the difference between most of these so called "assault rifles". Assault is an action and can be performed with any weapon. If i threaten to smack you up side the head with a base ball bat is it now an assault bat?
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