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re: 70% of Young Americans think we should be allowed to own Assualt Rifles
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:02 am to Clames
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:02 am to Clames
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Try again when you can cite a legal definition of that term that doesn't reflect the deliberate ambiguity of its use.
The legal definition will come when they try to ban certain weapons - just like last time. At that point we will debate the merits of such a ban. It will not matter one whit what they call them. They can call an AR-15 a popsicle, and then say they are going to ban popsicles. I say keep our right to own ALL popsicles. Let them call it whatever they want as long as I maintain a right to own it.
When they go to ban certain firearms, they will be precise on what fits into the class they want to ban.
Do you not realize that they ALREADY banned 'assault weapons' whereas they provided a precise definition of what constituted an 'assault weapon'? The only way they could pass it was to include a sunset provision. Well, the sun has set on that piece of legislation, and I propose we don't allow them to re-enact it. What I don't propose we do is go around and around the issue by crying about what is and what isn't an assault weapon. We should focus more on what firearms and features we desire to remain legal.
And like I said, the numbers in that presentation say it all, what, 0.6% of gun crimes were committed using weapons they would classify as 'assault weapons'? That right there says they are not addressing the problem that they themselves perceive. Get them to clearly define what they believe to be a problem first, and then argue for rational solutions to the problem. Getting caught up in semantics is a waste of time.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The legal definition will come when they try to ban certain weapons - just like last time.
The problem you fail (repeatedly) to understand is that there is no such thing a precise definition of a nebulous concept. Which is why...
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Do you not realize that they ALREADY banned 'assault weapons' whereas they provided a precise definition of what constituted an 'assault weapon'?
...you never realized the 1994 AWB banned NOTHING. Notta, zip, zilch. That "precise" definition based on ambiguous cosmetic features wasn't very precise which is why the loons that wrote the law still complain that manufacturers violated the "spirit" of it. The focus should be on making sure such terms are known to be emotional pandering and never see the light of day in any piece of legislation. Your focus implies that the ground already lost is gone for good.
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