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re: Man dead after refusing to show police ID

Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:41 pm to
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All of the times I have been stopped by the police and I asked them why am I being stopped they immediately told me.
There is no shortage of video on the net where this has not been the case.

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They should be able to detain everyone who fits the description.

If the bank robber was a white man, approximately 60 years of age, 5' 11" in height, 140 lbs then they shouldn't be able to stop a black or other dark skinned man, a young white man, a woman, a midget or anyone else who obviously doesn't fit the description of the bank robber.
What if all they got was "young black male"? Or, "young white male"? How good does the description need to be? I mean, your description example is very specific. That wouldn't be the norm.

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That almost never is the case. They usually have some type of description such as height, weight, type of clothes, etc. but in that case they would most likely stop no one because they have no description to go by.
Ax murders are rare but they're still illegal.

And hell. We had a very long thread on THIS board when cops(I think in colorado) stopped EVERY LAST SOUL at a particular intersection and detained every car there for over an hour so they could check EVERY car on a phone tip that the robber MIGHT be in that area.

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Why make it impossible by letting the bank robber or in the example I gave, the wanted murderer, be able to give a false name
I don't even understand the "false name" line because how exactly would the cop even know if I gave them a false name. You said earlier, I could just give them my REAL name. If, at that point, they don't have anything on me for whatever the stopped me for AT THAT MOMENT, then I should be on my way.

Of course, if they have nothing on me, they shouldn't have stopped me in the first place. And THAT'S the point. If they have something on me, they don't need my name and if they don't have something on me, I shouldn't have to give my name. SIMPLE.

Back to your "they could stop all 20" line. Really? For how long? I mean, my ID isn't going to tell them if I robbed the bank in question and neither is anyone else's. So. Are cops supposed to be allowed to just sit there holding all 20 of you until they're happy?


I'll answer your questions later.

I have to go and do something right now.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:43 pm to
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I'll answer your questions later. I have to go and do something right now.


Depriving people of freedom, or just a routine dog shooting?
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