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re: Is this board a target of covert agents?

Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35013 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:55 pm to
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Most likely if for no other reason than to monitor anti-regime activity and report on it. Anyone criticizing Obama on this board should be careful about not revealing ANY personal information. The Obama admin has exhibited a clear pattern of retribution against opponents. And for the record this is not partisan paranoia. I have never felt this way about any POTUS Dem or Pub.


Well, dd...they have smart people that work for Obama/Progs...and they must realize that it's one thing to play politics and hammer the Republicans...but it's altogether another to slap down an individual. Words are one thing...personal hurt is altogether another animal. That takes things to a whole nother level; one makes a blood enemy, for life...if one goes there. When that starts happening...it fast falls apart, and goes to the street. I don't think none of us - Progs included - want to go there. Too good to lose.

Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:56 pm to
Rex is their most insidious operative. He is really a ultra right wing fanatic who hates dogs and attends Catholic services daily. Little known fact, he voted for David Duke instead of Edwin Edwards.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11489 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 4:59 pm to
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Rex is their most insidious operative. He is really a ultra right wing fanatic who hates dogs and attends Catholic services daily. Little known fact, he voted for David Duke instead of Edwin Edwards.


He is a true capitalist. For the right price he is your hack.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:15 pm to
Explains Decatur's three personas quite well.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:15 pm to
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Marxist always seek to silence opposition. Marxism and free sppeech ARE indeed incompatible. "Justice" is a nice sounding word they use to characterize tyranny and persued the sheeple to give them absolute power.



What makes you think this?

Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:43 pm to
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Most likely if for no other reason than to monitor anti-regime activity and report on it


That occurs to me often, but have no proof yet. Perhaps Greenwald will confirm that eventually.
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Anyone criticizing Obama on this board should be careful about not revealing ANY personal information.


My suspicion is that they know who eveyone of us is. There's a hollow point bullet for each of us with our names engraved on it.

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The Obama admin has exhibited a clear pattern of retribution against opponents.


True that.

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And for the record this is not partisan paranoia. I have never felt this way about any POTUS Dem or Pub.


While this sentiment is well-received by me, it still strikes me as partisan; it's been my feeling about EVERY POTUS since JFK (possible exception of Reagan). Think about it. LBJ was a criminal with his Great Satiety. Nixon was Nixon. Ford was on the Warren Commission. Jimmy Carter sinned in his heart, created the Ayatolaized Iran. Reagan had GREAT rhetoric, but government grew under him too, and he didn't stop the CIA from drug and gun running when he found out about it (through Bubba's Mena airport). Bush I was CIA. Bubba and Mrs. Bubba are all about Marx and corruption. Bush II was, well, Bush II, the biggest spender since LBJ and he laid the legal foundation with the Patriot Act for subsequent destruction of our rights.

Obama is merely Bush II on steroids. He's not as good at disguising his agenda, or doesn't care; he's more in our face. It seems like his job is to accellerate/expand The Agenda to provoke an armed insurrection that would justify martial law, and the suspension of elections -- until the only remaining voters are Democrats, AKA Marxists. Cue the celebratory dancing by the wannabe covert agents here who think this is "Justice."

That's my perspective and best guess.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:02 pm to
I've long thought that many of the left here as well as the guys that shill for the GOP establishment during election season are paid operatives.
Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:23 pm to
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Marxist always seek to silence opposition. Marxism and free sppeech ARE indeed incompatible. "Justice" is a nice sounding word they use to characterize tyranny and persuade* the sheeple to give them absolute power.
*oops


What makes you think this?



History. Consider the actions of every Marxist regime throughout the 20th Century. Hundreds of millions of silenced opposition in Russia and China. Before that, Hitler, the leader of the Germany National Socialist Party (Nazi), conducted pograms to eliminate opposition and undesireables. Castro did the same thing. It's the same story in every country where Marxists take over.

Obama is in control, but he still has a few loose constraints on him by the Constitution. He's trying to eliminate the few that remain. But what was the IRS' actions against the Tea Party, conservatives, etc., if not a covert action to silence opposition? He attacks Fox News because it's the only network he does not control (the MSM). NC Tigah above gave his own example. The Article that provoked your quoted remark by me EXPRESSLY asserts that free speech and Liberalism (read Marxism) cannot coexist--and boldly states that means free speech must go. It's rare that a Marxist is that honest. The reason is simple: free speech includes true speech. Nothing is truer than the creator-granted freedoms that are engraved in our hearts. True speech envokes the heart, which responds. We yearn for freedom. Marxism sees the individual as a "species being," subservient to the collective. It is first and last the enslavement of the individual for the purported good of the whole. It isn't, of course, it is just for the good of the elite who control everyone, because as Orwell says, "some animals are more equal than others."

Both history and the present are littered with examples of Marxists oppressing people and denying them the rights we know to be our inheritance as human beings. Inalienable, Our Founders said.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53732 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:46 pm to
I have thought on occasion a few posters here are government disinfo. A place like Democratic Underground is crawling with that. I am not some big Chomsky guy, but he said it right.

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261697 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:52 pm to
I know some groups have paid people to post on boards, such as Moveon.org, "America Coming Together" and "Progressive Change Campaign"

Wouldn't put it past govt agencies to have people doing the same.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:55 pm to
Every keystroke you type and every phone call you make is going to be followed by them and that has been the case for decades.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:58 pm to
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Photobucket sucks. Imgur FTW.

You need to switch on over to imgur. It's superior with easy accessibility, so easy to use, and easy to find everything. Imgur has no bandwidth limit and PB has one. Imgur also gives you a great deal more privacy than PB.


Good advice. Thanks. I want to use something other than PB.
Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:26 pm to
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Well, dd...they have smart people that work for Obama/Progs...and they must realize that it's one thing to play politics and hammer the Republicans...but it's altogether another to slap down an individual. Words are one thing...personal hurt is altogether another animal. That takes things to a whole nother level; one makes a blood enemy, for life...if one goes there. When that starts happening...it fast falls apart, and goes to the street. I don't think none of us - Progs included - want to go there. Too good to lose.


My reading comprehension skills have waned over the past few decades, but it seems like you are of the opinion that these personal attacks are not yet ongoing. If so, please read the documentation that supports the cited link on the OP: the attacks ARE ongoing and highly effective.

"Too good to lose?" What do you think "fundamentally transform America" means? He means to install a Marxist state where everyone is enslaved in service of that state. Hello? Haven't you looked at what little history is not sealed about Obama? His mentors, his associates, his family? He is a Musolini-style fascist intent on making America Italy c.1938. He needs to eliminate opposition to that design and he's well into it. Read the documents.
Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 7:30 pm to
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Every keystroke you type and every phone call you make is going to be followed by them and that has been the case for decades.


In my case, even longer! (having actually sailed on Victory Ships, which are WW II vintage)
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35013 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:24 pm to
Sailor, God bless you in your golden years; my comprehension skills are on the wane too. But if you were familiar with my post history...you'd realize that I am one of the more hyperbolic critics of Obama's "fundamental transformation", on this board. And I am not anonymous, not hard to find out. I've written a lot of public letters to my local paper for years; cost me a bundle in business. But my conscience is clear, my heart (good intent) is solid, and I love this country and the Justice that it's Meritocracy offers to any who are willing to labor and climb the ladder to prosperity as far as their motivation allows.

I give us a 50/50 shot at avoiding a civil war, the likes we now witness in many countries where the Ideology is polarized and the antipathy rising. I know a lot of fine folk who are Progs, and most have a good life. They are scared crazy that the Rednecks will go rogue, when practical and prudent Regulation is (necessarily) imposed on our extravagant and hedonistic populous...as a matter of responsible moral conscience, and love for Earth and life. They could be persuaded, if not lied to, and disrespected.

There are some blinded fools on the Prog team, but when they take a good look around at Egypt, Syria, Indonesia, Venezuela, Ukraine, etc., then I find it hard to believe that they will push the envelope and go rogue on a populous who has over the last few years, armed themselves to the teeth, and can't wait for payback...for being jerked around like chumps. They are pissed...especially at the liar Obama. And his racism.

I am on record as predicting a (future)wildly successful World State; and one based on the "chief cornerstone" of Jesus Christ (His philosophy, and Gift). Not Religion...but Vision. Two different animals. And high-tech, re the book "Abundance". I catch plenty of heat on here, for such fantastical belief. Yet, I seek never to impose my belief on any, or censor the beliefs of any. Just argue, with color...toward an educated, un-coerced choice - with each individual bearing the consequences of that choice. No LYING. Spell it out, explain to each in a way that they can understand...and them hold all accountable.

So if you really believe that the tyrants are on our trail, the best thing you can do for yourself is to keep distance from me. My days are numbered, and I believe the way I live those final days will define my next life. I appreciate you keeping a critical eye on me.

Be well.



Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 8:25 pm to
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I really do not think it is Marxist. They are not following some play book. It is just how people are who think they know better than everyone else. They are controlling and they think anything is fair game as long as it gets them to their end game. It is some genetic disorder. Maybe narcissism or something similar.



While Obama is an example supporting your genetic theory (his alleged father was a devout Marxist), don't preclude the possibility that it is both a genetic AND a mental disorder like narcissism. It strikes me as a mental disease charcaterized by envy, need to control others, hubris, and the delusion that once their agenda is affected, they'll be okay -- as if being a slave is okay.

He follows the Sol Alinsky playbook, Rules for Radicals -- he taught a course on that at the University of Chicago. Also, he is applying the Cloward–Piven strategy he picked up at Columbia, overwhelming our system to break it. His corporatism includes unions, so the triunvirate he is installing (with government binding the two, the Fasci) follows the Musolini paradigm. Sounds like Marxism to me...

Forgive me if you see me continue to refer to his maladaption as Marxism, granting that it is a homicidal mental disorder.
Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:28 pm to
What a wonderful, cordial, thoughtful, and utterly honest post. Thank you for the heartwarming.

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Sailor, God bless you in your golden years; my comprehension skills are on the wane too.


They WERE golden before Pelosi resumed power. Since then they have passed silver and are trending beyond bronze. By time these guys are done they will be lead.

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...my conscience is clear, my heart (good intent) is solid, and I love this country and the Justice that it's Meritocracy offers to any who are willing to labor and climb the ladder to prosperity as far as their motivation allows.



Your post gives credence to your claim with the attendant eloquence that colors the American Dream.

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I give us a 50/50 shot at avoiding a civil war,


That's pretty optimistic in my view, since my perception sees one side intentionally provoking a bloody conflict that satisfies two objectives: removing opposition and depopulation. My prayer is that you're right and reason prevails to bring about the peaceful 50%.

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...when practical and prudent Regulation is (necessarily) imposed on our extravagant and hedonistic populous...as a matter of responsible moral conscience, and love for Earth and life. They could be persuaded, if not lied to, and disrespected.


Extravagant hedonism is not a capital crime and may pale compared to the Brave New World that approaches with The Singularity that will precipitate it. We passed "prudent Regulation" a long time ago; nowhere is the Cloward-Piven strategy more evident than in the over-regulation intended to paralyze industry and the economy more generally. A true free market (last seen pre-FDR) is the best regulator.

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They could be persuaded, if not lied to, and disrespected.


But we ARE being lied to and disrespected. It's what they do, who they are. Isn't that prima facie evident?

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I find it hard to believe that they will push the envelope and go rogue on a populous who has over the last few years, armed themselves to the teeth


You find it hard to believe because you are rational and unafflicted by a dangerous mental illness! While the shedding of blood is anathema to US, it is a way of life to Marxists -- it's how they usually seize complete power, what they do, who they are. They have no qualms about killing their opposition. None. Your Prog friends may be appalled when the puppet masters give the order, but they will quietly go along with it as the domestic army and foreign troops in our armed forces carry it out along with the drones and robotic weapons currently and about to be in full production.

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I am on record as predicting a (future)wildly successful World State; and one based on the "chief cornerstone" of Jesus Christ (His philosophy, and Gift). Not Religion...but Vision


This utopia would be fine with me -- if every country were to adopt Our Constition and construe it as Our Founders intended. Otherwise it will be a dystopia. The NWO under current construction is a Neofeudal state, a nightmare that will plunge mankind into a darkness for a long, long time.

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I seek never to impose my belief on any, or censor the beliefs of any. Just argue, with color


Well, that's because you are rational AND unafflicted by a homicidal mental illness. Imposing is what these guy do best. Their complete intolerance of the beliefs of others can be counted on. You DO argue with color, though.

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toward an educated, un-coerced choice - with each individual bearing the consequences of that choice. No LYING. Spell it out, explain to each in a way that they can understand...and them hold all accountable.



This regime (including the Republican leadership, the Neocons) are wholly incapable of doing this. Coersion and deceit is their MO, their primary approach to advancing their agena. It's what they do, who they are. Accountability is for the moral. This crew is utterly amoral.

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So if you really believe that the tyrants are on our trail, the best thing you can do for yourself is to keep distance from me.


HaHa! Unforfunately, you seem to have been following my path for decades and you can't be shaken off!

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My days are numbered, and I believe the way I live those final days will define my next life.


We share this notion.

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I appreciate you keeping a critical eye on me.


It's my good, eye, the right one! Interacting with you has been a pleasure. Thank you.

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Be well


Like that's gonna happen

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57438 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:31 pm to
I made a formal accusation last year against a poster on here. Did research, found their posting pattern all over the net.

Admin PM'ed me. Sent research. Nothing happened.

Poster was DA.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted by VictoryShipSailor
Member since Dec 2012
136 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:56 pm to
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I made a formal accusation last year against a poster on here. Did research, found their posting pattern all over the net.

Admin PM'ed me. Sent research. Nothing happened.

Poster was DA.


Forgive my ignorance, who is DA?

Are we to infer from your post that you suspect this DA is an actual bona fide covert agent in the employ of the government and up to nefarious ends?

They have to be somewhere. The documents establish that they are in this type of environment.
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2513 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 11:07 pm to
Oh yeah I'm sure this echo chamber is just crawling with operatives.
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