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re: Uh oh, some people in Georgia are offended over a license plate

Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:31 am to
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And how is the US Flag perceived by those who may feel they were done injury under it? The Japanese Americans in internment camps thinking they were singled out for their race, or the American Indian Tribes who had their land stolen from them, or the blacks who were made to endure segregation well after the Civil War in the North and South, and prevented from immigrating up North in certain areas under that same flag. Well, maybe not the blacks, because they have have been told by the Good Americans to identify the battle flag of the Confederacy as their symbol of hate. Because of course, when you break all of this down to a mother goose fairy tale or heroic struggle on the part of the knight in shining armor trying to rid the world of evil instead of simply keep the nation together, you get silly reasoning where all things are never considered because they aren't presented in the same damning light. We've simply rewritten our own version of history today in order to deem one evil, the other noble, and one sharing the Brunt of the blame while the other gets a free pass, and even hero status. It's nothing short of appalling the manner in which some people shirk the responsibility for their own sins while placing the blame on others and a flag.


See the problem you have with those who used the flag as a symbol of hate, not me. They are the ones that botched your history, not me. I am just reacting to the asswipes waiving the rebel flag to say HERE LOOK I AM A RACIST.

I am actually quite familiar with the civil war, having lived for a while in both GA and VA. I read the entire Shelby Foote history of it. It was long but good, totally inspired by Ken Burns doc.

It was an interesting and tragic event. It was entirely preventable, and certainly should have been taken care of in the constitution. And it was certainly more complex than slavery.

However, the rebel flag has been co-opted. Its not just me that thinks this, a simple google search indicates that the rebel flag isn't allowed on this very site! Why? People perceive it to be racist.

As for the american flag, I have issues with things america has done, namely to do american indians. I am not proud of all of our history but the flag is not used by those as a symbol for pushing down the american indian. If they did, and it became part of pop culture then I might then associate the flag with american indian atrocities.

There is a difference.

Again, I strongly support your right to use the rebel flag. Go for it! Hell, I would go fight a war for you to have the right to declare that. But when I see it, I instantly associate it with racism and you with racism.

This is no different than seeing some dude wearing baggy pants and thinking he is a thug.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:52 am to
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See the problem you have with those who used the flag as a symbol of hate, not me. They are the ones that botched your history, not me. I am just reacting to the asswipes waiving the rebel flag to say HERE LOOK I AM A RACIST.


The license plate is commemorating the Sons of the Confederate Veterans. That is all.


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However, the rebel flag has been co-opted. Its not just me that thinks this


Oh, I realize you aren't the only one, but it's why you believe that in light of how the US Flag is also misused in the same things that is most puzzling. This in light of the fact of how long it was used to preserve and protect slavery in this country compared to the few years of the Confederacy, and also in how it's prominently displayed at Klan Rallies and Neo Nazi gathers as well, having its meaning completely perverted by those same mentally challenged idiots as well.

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If they did, and it became part of pop culture then I might then associate the flag with american indian atrocities.


And therein lies the problem with this mentality, as it depends solely upon popular opinion than facts or sound reasoning for the purpose of the damning of a piece of cloth as the symbol of hatred when the real culprit or symbol would better be identified as the human heart.

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Again, I strongly support your right to use the rebel flag.


I have zero desire for a Rebel Flag other than where I said it deserves to fly or be displayed, with that which deals with history, historical places, events, and most importantly with the soldiers who fought and died under it protecting themselves from invasion, regardless of that which some 94% of their population did not own or profit from directly. The Sons of Confederate Veterans is most surely an appropriate venue to display that flag as it is about the soldiers who fought and died under it.




This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 9:57 am
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