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re: Why do we still have section 8 in this country?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
At one point in my life I owned two apartment complexes mostly filled with Section 8 vouchers.
Section 8 is designed primarily for single mothers to help subsidize their housing. It is a tough and stringent program to get on and vouchers are only available as Fedeal dollars are available. If Fed dollars are spent for the year, no new vouchers are issued.
To receive a voucher an applicant has to provide tax returns and document two years of earnings and expenses. A single mother with one child qualifies for a one bedroom apt, two kids two bedroom apt/house, three kids etc. The voucher can be used for any rental property anywhere as long as the landlord will accept it. The voucher amount is determined by the local market rate for a given unit the applicant qualifies for. If the applicant has no job and is dependent upon food stamps, Medicaid etc chances are the voucher will pay the full monthly rent. If the applicant has a job the voucher amount falls and and the amount owed by the tenant rises based upon a formula.
The housing unit does have to be inspected by the Section 8 office and has to meet guidelines, so no, the unit can't be a dump or a slum. In fact many dont qualify and the landlord can choose not to accept the tenant or the voucher and both part ways. The applicant must be criminal record free, must report all income to the office and must pay their share of the voucher monthly or they are kicked off the program. The unit is only to be lived in by the mother and children and no one else. No baby daddies, no parents, if that rule is violated, they are off the program permanently...something I was very strict about.
It isn't a total free ride but like all govt programs it can be cheated or manipulated. I saw it benefit and do what it was planned to do many times, and I saw it abused and cheated many times, moreso the former than latter.
Section 8 is designed primarily for single mothers to help subsidize their housing. It is a tough and stringent program to get on and vouchers are only available as Fedeal dollars are available. If Fed dollars are spent for the year, no new vouchers are issued.
To receive a voucher an applicant has to provide tax returns and document two years of earnings and expenses. A single mother with one child qualifies for a one bedroom apt, two kids two bedroom apt/house, three kids etc. The voucher can be used for any rental property anywhere as long as the landlord will accept it. The voucher amount is determined by the local market rate for a given unit the applicant qualifies for. If the applicant has no job and is dependent upon food stamps, Medicaid etc chances are the voucher will pay the full monthly rent. If the applicant has a job the voucher amount falls and and the amount owed by the tenant rises based upon a formula.
The housing unit does have to be inspected by the Section 8 office and has to meet guidelines, so no, the unit can't be a dump or a slum. In fact many dont qualify and the landlord can choose not to accept the tenant or the voucher and both part ways. The applicant must be criminal record free, must report all income to the office and must pay their share of the voucher monthly or they are kicked off the program. The unit is only to be lived in by the mother and children and no one else. No baby daddies, no parents, if that rule is violated, they are off the program permanently...something I was very strict about.
It isn't a total free ride but like all govt programs it can be cheated or manipulated. I saw it benefit and do what it was planned to do many times, and I saw it abused and cheated many times, moreso the former than latter.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:43 pm to lsuroadie
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lsuroadie
Thank you. Lots of kneejerk ignorance around here about the Section 8 program. Many people say "I'm not opposed to giving a man a leg up if he is willing to help himself". In my opinion, the Section 8 program is closer to that than to just a straight handout.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:19 am to lsuroadie
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The unit is only to be lived in by the mother and children and no one else. No baby daddies, no parents
There's a section 8 house down the street from my parents and I can honestly say that this property has single handedly brought down the value of the entire neighborhood. No incentive to upkeep at all. The place is a revolving door of people with atleast 4-6 kids and many young men.
My parents actually had a situation a couple of months ago where one of the kids was acting up and the mom and boyfriend duct taped his feet and hands, put a dirty sock in his mouth and then duct taped that as well. Then they pulled his pants down and beat the shite out of him. He managed to escape and hobbled outside where my dad was and called the cops.
I realize that this was an anomaly and government assistance is good and necessary in a lot of cases but it's hard to support it when you see stuff like this regularly
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 9:21 am
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