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re: Boehner being Boehner
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:56 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:56 pm to goldennugget
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What good is the GOP taking the senate if the same old leadership, career politicians and RINOs are still there?
One of the reasons I like about conservatives is our (usual) ability to notice unintended consquences: from raising taxes hurting the economy to welfare programs causing dependence.
But somehow a large chunk of conservatives cannot even see the unintended consequences of their own actions.
Let's play through this shall we?
1. Boehner insists on some additional measure as part of the debt ceiling being raised.
2. The Senate and Obama say "screw you."
3. Republicans get blamed. Hurts future electoral chances.
4. Republicans cave. Caving makes them look week, hurts electoral chances even more.
End of the day, whatever it is we are fighting for doesn't happen, and Rs take it on the chin. If you cannot win the game, DON'T PLAY IT!
But wait, your fantasy-addled mind thinks- "what if we never ever ever cave!" It never happens. No shutdown has worked out for the repubs.
"But that's because they cave!" So what? Shut down government until they 2014 midterm? Then Rs lose the house and Obama can essentially do what he wants. But at least the 40-50 republicans left will be super-duper ideologically pure! That will solve everything!!!!!!
Pick your battles. Repubs can't win this one. They can will the election. That means they will have more leverage to choose even more battles in the future, not the least of which would be senate confirmations like the supreme court.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:02 pm to BigJim
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Pick your battles. Repubs can't win this one. They can will the election. That means they will have more leverage to choose even more battles in the future, not the least of which would be senate confirmations like the supreme court.
We have been told this the last 100 battles that have come up on Capitol Hill. It's always a hill not to die on. The message is always to live to fight another day.
When will that "another day" come? If they haven't fought the last 100 battles, what makes you think they will fight in the future? What have they done to show that they will fight if they do win control of the senate?
If that does happen, I guarantee you the new excuse for caving will be "We can't jeopardize the chances of winning the White House in 2016". And if somehow post 2016 the GOP holds the house, senate, and White House, the new excuse will be "We can't risk losing our majority in 2018".
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