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re: Loomis: Graham WILL be franchised if no long-term deal is met

Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Yes, but that doesn't mean there's only enough room for one marquee player. Every team has the same salary cap, and they all have a couple of big time salaries on their rosters. It's the nature of the business. When you have the top TE in the league that you groomed from a rookie who has develped tremendous chemistry on your team, you don't let him walk to another team and give them production.



What you don't do is make blanket statements/decisions like you did here without considering the alternatives.

You've made no case that Graham is the best place to spend the money.

It would take me about 5 seconds to put together a reasonable argument that Graham shouldn't be paid WR money because it burdens the Saints in a way that no other team is burdened...and obviously has negative impact in other areas.

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If Jimmay starts asking for top5 WR money, then we have a problem; however, there is nothing indicating this is the case (the franchise argument is different than long term deal)


If he starts asking for anything other than TE money (albeit top TE money) we have a problem. Make no mistake about it.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:34 pm to
I believe there is 0.0% chance the FO will give JG a big long term deal as a WR.

And I would be very surprised is his camp forever remained adamant with that in mind during negotiations.

We will see in 2015 as I think a tag will be coming next.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:38 pm to
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You've made no case that Graham is the best place to spend the money.


No? I believe I stated
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have the top TE in the league
. What more needs to be said?


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It would take me about 5 seconds to put together a reasonable argument that Graham shouldn't be paid WR money because it burdens the Saints in a way that no other team is burdened...and obviously has negative impact in other areas.


1. this is such a broad statement. WR money can range anywhere from Calvin Johnson to Nick Toon.

2. I clearly state that he should not be paid top 5 WR money

3. He needs to be paid somewhere between the top TE contract and the top WR contract, since this sums up what his role is.

4. I did state that based on his playing time, if francised, he should be done so by WR standards. This by no means translates to me saying we should sign him long term to top 5 WR contract. Again, the franchise and long-term contracts are two completely seperate discussions


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f he starts asking for anything other than TE money (albeit top TE money) we have a problem


He's not a TE. He's a TE/WR, and deserves accordingly. He should be paid in the range of Gronkowski (who was paid handsomely), plus a little extra (since this is how contracts work)
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