re: Official True Detective(hbo) season 1 thread.

So are we switching to an Episode format for tomorrow's episode?

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this confused me..Marty asked Rust to come over the night they found the body…so I think the dinner was the same night they found the body and that they had been partners for three months prior to that dinner

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Nope - I thought it was the same night too but on rewatch it's very clear it is not the same night.

First, Rust goes out and chugs Robotussin in his car, cruises a truck stop, and buys drinks and questions two hookers in a bar the night of the murder. Marty goes home late - Rust left him finishing the paperwork - checks in on his girls, has a drink, and falls asleep in his recliner.

In addition, Marty says in his first interview that the dinner was three months after the body was found, "when that case was hot" and later in the episode the detectives ask Marty specifically about the dinner and he says "it was a little bit later".

The timeline in the past jumps around depending on what Rust and Marty are talking about. The dinner was definitely not the same day they found the body because of the actions we see - Rust with the hookers and Marty falling asleep in his recliner - and Marty says it was three months later.

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Are people on here watching this because it's Louisiana based?

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Some may be (and pretty critical of some non-essential details), but I DGAF personally. It was a great premiere. You'll enjoy it IMO.

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Are people on here watching this because it's Louisiana based?

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I like the fact that this story actually shows depth. I get so sick and tired of the Trueblood/Swamp People shows that depict life in Louisiana.

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This Forbes article covers it pretty well in non-spoilery discussion.

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great article.

I would recommend a rewatch.

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-Opening scene we see - in shadows - the person who burned the can field. It looks like a man dragging along another person.

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Assuming that's the killer moving the body to the tree? The lights the field on fire 1) to draw attention to the body 2) to possibly cover his tracks or at least cover up the direction he came from (either kill site was "dragging distance" from the tree or a car was used to transport the body from another location).

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-Marty's interview date with the detectives in 2012 is May 1st and Rust's interview date is April 26th. They talked to Rust first.

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Interesting catch. Maybe they need Rust to tell them something before they want to talk Marty.

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-Marty - "That's what you want to talk about, right? Dora Lang and the kids in the woods?"

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-Rust tells the detectives, "Bet you want to hear the hero stuff, right? The place we carried the kids out?"

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Noted this. I expect this will be revealed soon.

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-The black preacher calls the stick pyramid things found at the murder scene, "bird traps" or "devil nets". "You put them around the bed to catch the devil before it gets too close."

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Found something interesting in a google search:

From the Rev. Charles Spurgeon, The Snare of the Fowler

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"Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler."—Psalm 91:3.

If Moses wrote this Psalm he might represent the fowler as being in his case the king of Egypt, who sought to slay him, or the Amalekites, who pounced upon Israel in the plain, when they little expected it. If David penned it, he might have compared Saul to the fowler, for he himself says, he was hunted like a partridge upon the mountains. But we believe, if the verse be applicable to either of those cases, it was intended by the Psalmist not to have a private interpretation, but to be applicable to all time; and we believe it is spoken concerning that arch-enemy of souls, the great deceiver, Satan, of whom we just now sang,

"Satan, the fowler, who betrays
Unguarded souls a thousand ways."

"The prince of the power of this world, the spirit which still worketh in the children of disobedience," is like a fowler, always attempting to destroy us. It was once said by a talented writer, that the old devil was dead, and that there was a new devil now; by which he meant to say, that the devil of old times was a rather different devil from the deceiver of these times. We believe that it is the same evil spirit; but there is a difference in his mode of attack. The devil of five hundred years ago was a black and grimy thing well portrayed in our old pictures of that evil spirit. He was a persecutor, who cast men into the furnace, and put them to death for serving Christ. The devil of this day is a well-spoken gentleman: he does not persecute—he rather attempts to persuade and to beguile. He is not now so much the furious Romanist, so much as the insinuating unbeliever, attempting to overturn our religion, while at the same time he pretends he would make it more rational, and so more triumphant. He would only link worldliness with religion; and so he would really make religion void, under the cover of developing the great power of the gospel, and bringing out secrets which our forefathers had never discovered. Satan is always a fowler. Whatever his tactics may be, his object is still the same—to catch men in his net. Men are here compared to silly, weak birds, that have not skill enough to avoid the snare, and have not strength enough to escape from it. Satan is the fowler; he has been so and is so still; and if he does not now attack us as the roaring lion, roaring against us in persecution, he attacks us as the adder, creeping silently along the path, endeavoring to bite our heel with his poisoned fangs, and weaken the power of grace and ruin the life of godliness within us. Our text is a very comforting one to all believers, when they are beset by temptation. "Surely he shall deliver them from the snare of the fowler."

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Could be relevant given the religious community included in this show

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-Dora told her ex-husband in prison that she was going to become a nun. Said "she talking about how she met a king". Maybe she was involved in some kind of odd religious group?

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Imagine old-time Baptist fundamentalism mixed with an acid cult

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-Rust is from South Texas, grew up in Alaska, been working in Texas and Louisiana the last 10-12 years. He worked in narcotics and was on the robbery squad in Houston till 1989.

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Will be interesting to find out what he did from 89-95, probably the "classified" stuff Marty was referencing. Wonder if Rust was undercover.

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-The detectives ask why they checked on Marie Fontenot since is was "a missing girl, five years gone, report made in error." Rust says "She had an uncle that lived nearby. Call it intuition."

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Certainly more people know there is more to the Fontenot girl. Seems like her father was getting upset when she was mentioned. Possible that Fontenot girl could be the killer's first, maybe somebody has an idea who it is already.

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-After Rust finds a devil trap in the Fontenont's outbuilding, Danny's caretaker tells Marty and Rust that she hasn't been in the outbuilding since the police first came about Marie.

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This is not an abduction serial killer. This guy is known to the victims. He likely grooms the victims for a period of time, brainwashing them, etc. Maybe by the end he has them begging to take their life, especially if he is some kind of "king" to them. The bird traps seem to take major significance in the killer's fantasy.