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re: Current idea that cold is from global warming fundamentally flawed?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:47 am to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:47 am to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
It's not a lie that global warming can cause a sudden onset of cold climate.
It is a geological fact.
I'm not well versed on the polar vortex, but I have thoroughly studied Ice Age climates. Studying paleoecology is a hobby of mine.
Toward the end of the last Ice Age, natural forcing caused average annual temperatures to rise suddenly. This caused rapid melting of glacial ice. This cold meltwater became locked behind giant ice dams. When thes ice dams burst, billions of gallons of cold freshwater plus ice bergs and rafted debris flooded into the North Atlantic. This huge amount of cold freshwater shut down thermohaline circulation--the ocean currents that moderate climates.
This caused a sudden drop in worldwide average annual temperatures precipitating a 1500 year cold snap known as the Younger Dryas--it became as cold as the Ice Age again.
This cyclical event has occurred multiple times over the last 7 millions years, but especially over the last 2.4 million years. It happens more frequently and with greater intensity during Ice Ages.
There is abundant geological evidence of these events, known as Heinrich Events. At the bottom of the ocean there are rocks called dropstones and lots of debris including fossil trees that were carried out to sea by these floods. There are even visible drag marks off the coast of South Carolina where icebergs half ran aground on the ocean bottom.
It is a geological fact.
I'm not well versed on the polar vortex, but I have thoroughly studied Ice Age climates. Studying paleoecology is a hobby of mine.
Toward the end of the last Ice Age, natural forcing caused average annual temperatures to rise suddenly. This caused rapid melting of glacial ice. This cold meltwater became locked behind giant ice dams. When thes ice dams burst, billions of gallons of cold freshwater plus ice bergs and rafted debris flooded into the North Atlantic. This huge amount of cold freshwater shut down thermohaline circulation--the ocean currents that moderate climates.
This caused a sudden drop in worldwide average annual temperatures precipitating a 1500 year cold snap known as the Younger Dryas--it became as cold as the Ice Age again.
This cyclical event has occurred multiple times over the last 7 millions years, but especially over the last 2.4 million years. It happens more frequently and with greater intensity during Ice Ages.
There is abundant geological evidence of these events, known as Heinrich Events. At the bottom of the ocean there are rocks called dropstones and lots of debris including fossil trees that were carried out to sea by these floods. There are even visible drag marks off the coast of South Carolina where icebergs half ran aground on the ocean bottom.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:55 am to samson'sseed
So the earth heals itself, right?? What arrogant fools we would be to mess with the Earth's natural cycles
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:12 pm to samson'sseed
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This cold meltwater became locked behind giant ice dams. When thes ice dams burst, billions of gallons of cold freshwater plus ice bergs and rafted debris flooded into the North Atlantic.
I read about that somewhere. Some guy named Noah. There's a movie about it coming out in March
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This cyclical event has occurred multiple times over the last 7 millions years, but especially over the last 2.4 million years. It happens more frequently and with greater intensity during Ice Ages.
And what was missing during those ages?
Hmmm?
Humans!
So, technically it should be called Earthmade global warming (and cooling, it now appears)
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:24 pm to samson'sseed
Good Grief
The earth has cycles and mans affect is minimal.
The earth has cycles and mans affect is minimal.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:32 pm to samson'sseed
If "global warming" or "climate change" were man made, what realistically could be done to stop it at this point? And if it could be stopped, what are taxes going to do to stop it? We obviously don't need to research it anymore because I've been told numerous times that it is a scientifically proven fact already.
The simple fact is is that the left doesn't give two shits about stopping "climate change." If they did they would just make a law shutting down all harmful pollutants in the country. And then force developing countries to stop polluting as well. Of course they would just tell us to frick off because not everyone is stupid enough to just shut down their economy to save the planet.
But it's the planet we're talking about!!!! Are we going to use military force to stop people from driving cars and shut down all the power plants. It would definitely be worth the blood and treasure. We only have one Earth after all. Nothing should be off the table.
The simple fact is is that the left doesn't give two shits about stopping "climate change." If they did they would just make a law shutting down all harmful pollutants in the country. And then force developing countries to stop polluting as well. Of course they would just tell us to frick off because not everyone is stupid enough to just shut down their economy to save the planet.
But it's the planet we're talking about!!!! Are we going to use military force to stop people from driving cars and shut down all the power plants. It would definitely be worth the blood and treasure. We only have one Earth after all. Nothing should be off the table.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:50 pm to samson'sseed
quote:What was the source of this "natural forcing"?
Toward the end of the last Ice Age, natural forcing caused average annual temperatures to rise suddenly.
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