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re: What schools would ST. George affect?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:59 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 1/2/14 at 2:59 pm to LSURussian
The racism angle is an interesting one. Crime stat wise, blacks are overwhelmingly in the lead for murdering and populating prisons. Look at the murder map...all black neighborhoods. BR people know this. They probably don't want their kids in the same classrooms together. Can you really blame them?
Eta-I don't see this as a reason to from SG...just a reason why the middle class has left the public school system and in turn, unintentionally contributed to its demise.
Eta-I don't see this as a reason to from SG...just a reason why the middle class has left the public school system and in turn, unintentionally contributed to its demise.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:03 pm to BugAC
quote:I thought long and hard about those comments before I made them. It wasn't an off the cuff remark. It was the only conclusion I could come to based on the hodge podge of fallacious reasons given by supporters for wanting to form their own city and school system.
That's asinine and you know it.
If someone can make a logical argument why I'm wrong, I'll retract my statement and admit I was wrong.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:08 pm to Sir Drinksalot
quote:
don't see this as a reason to from SG...just a reason why the middle class has left the public school system and in turn, unintentionally contributed to its demise
It's made the private school business into the most competitive thing going in EBR.
The more broken families plus the more 14 year olds having kids plus sense of entitlement by these same people = disastrous school systems. My son will NOT be attending an EBRPSS elementary. Meanwhile, if we lived in Prairieville or Walker, I would be able to save 15 grand a year. I think people like me and you want a solution for a good education that is still free. Horace Mann did not foresee these issues, I am afraid.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:10 pm to Sir Drinksalot
quote:Of course I don't blame them.
The racism angle is an interesting one. Crime stat wise, blacks are overwhelmingly in the lead for murdering and populating prisons. Look at the murder map...all black neighborhoods. BR people know this. They probably don't want their kids in the same classrooms together. Can you really blame them?
But here is the point: Kids in SG don't have to go to schools in those areas any longer. The 2007 settlement with the Justice Department implementing the end of racial deseg bussing in 2008 ended those bus rides into the ghetto.
Yet all I've heard in this thread is about bussing and not getting new schools built in the SG area.
Both of those reasons are without merit.
There is no more deseg bussing in the parish and SG has had 3 new schools built in their district in the last 4 years. More are planned but they won't get built until the possibility of the entire area breaking away is settled.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:11 pm to LSURussian
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This entire discussion is probably moot because I just don't see St George happening anyway. I don't think the legislature and the rest of the state want to see the state's capital balkanized into little fiefdoms.
So they really have a say in it? Isn't it really up to the will of the voters in SG, assuming we get the sigs?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:13 pm to WhoDats10
Can someone riddle me this:
What will change at Woodlawn High as far as demographics and students?
What does St. George do to Tara and its feeders; also McKinley and its feeders (even Broadmoor High)?
What will change at Woodlawn High as far as demographics and students?
What does St. George do to Tara and its feeders; also McKinley and its feeders (even Broadmoor High)?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:16 pm to BLM
quote:
My original intent was to let you know that I've been to a few SG mtgs and every time the tax question was brought up the response was "there's no guarantee that taxes won't increase". Maybe you've seen something different but its never been represented differently in my presence.
That's been the same thing I've seen on the meetings recorded and posted to the St. George facebook page.
They think that they can run a city without raising taxes. There's some doubt about the school district - especially since there is a significant need for more infrastructure in what is now unicorporated southern East Baton Rouge. A new high school and a new middle school won't come cheaply or quickly. Those are going to be needed unless you want to continue sending your kids all the way to mid city for middle school or crowd them into Woodlawn.
I fully support St. George for wanting to gain more control over their schools and I encourage everyone to sign the petition and allow this to come to a vote....just understand that new schools are not cheap, and a new school district will take a year or two after approval before it could possibly be up and running.
My own suburb recently did this via 1/2 cent sales tax that started in 2012. Classes will start in August 2014. We found a great suprintendent and we are making all existing employees reapply for their jobs....hopefully we can attract seasoned, experinced teachers from the old Memphis school district.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:37 pm to LSURussian
Current middle and most high schools in at George are mostly black. SG is HOPING white middle class will return and even out the demographics, making it "safe" for their kids in the classroom.
Bussing has nothing to do with it. SG wants authority over its own schools in hopes that they will have an influx of hopeful middle class, and major improvements over all. It just makes sense.
TLDR; we need good families back in the public school system.
Bussing has nothing to do with it. SG wants authority over its own schools in hopes that they will have an influx of hopeful middle class, and major improvements over all. It just makes sense.
TLDR; we need good families back in the public school system.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:13 pm to Huck Finn
quote:In a new school district? Yes. It takes 2/3 of the legislature to pass a constitutional amendment and then it must be put to a statewide vote.
So they really have a say in it?
For a new city? I'm not sure. There has to be some type of control limiting areas incorporating. If not, what is to prevent every household or every street from declaring themselves a new city? There has to be an oversight process involved.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:55 pm to Sir Drinksalot
wont these private schools go out of business then. Man, I wanted my cousins and sister to go to brmhs. Doubt parents will pay for catholic or sja
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:00 pm to RyseofRome
I never understood how and why middle class white families could afford for their multiple children to attend private school. you could get the same education at baton rouge high or McKinley
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:10 pm to Jazzbass13
Just have a decent job and know how to manage money. I'm 31 and will send my kids to catholic schools even if St George does happen (which I hope does). It is a sacrifice, but wouldn't you do that for your kid(s)?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:10 pm to WhoDats10
Because this stuff happens at private schools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px33zKdLWq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px33zKdLWq8
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:19 pm to The Cable Guy
No, I would rather save my money. I live within the proposed boundary of St. George and am opposed to the change. Our kids went to neighborhood elementary and middle schools but moved on to magnet, gifted and talented programs at McKinley and BRMHS (one still at BRMHS)...we appreciated the parental choices provided to us. I would hate to see others not have the same choices.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:49 pm to Jazzbass13
you have more socializing opportunities at chs then brmhs
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:56 pm to Tigerpaw123
Oh yes that's right, everything will be great on that side of the fence, schools and grass included.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:35 am to Sir Drinksalot
quote:
Current middle and most high schools in at George are mostly black. SG is HOPING white middle class will return and even out the demographics, making it "safe" for their kids in the classroom.
Bussing has nothing to do with it. SG wants authority over its own schools in hopes that they will have an influx of hopeful middle class, and major improvements over all. It just makes sense.
TLDR; we need good families back in the public school system.
Get rid of Common Core and I might think about it
Posted on 1/3/14 at 6:41 am to WhoDats10
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WhoDats10
I remember going to turkey jam and bottom bash back in the day.
Talk about fun times
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:02 am to TigerRagAndrew
Common core is in all the catholic schools too, don't be fooled.
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