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re: Espn: Sizing up the SEC resumes
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:55 pm to MattLSU
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:55 pm to MattLSU
I still have not found a single mock 4 team playoff for 2013 that doesn't have Alabama in it. Not seeing where you coming up with this concept of favoring conference winners to the point of being blind. That would make more sense if it were a computer system(even though Bama would beat Baylor in the computers). There isn't a single human poll that has Baylor ranked ahead of Bama, I don't think most intelligent football fans think Baylor is the better team.
Usa Today 4 team mock playoff
Dennis Dodd 4 team mock playoff
NFL.com 4 team mock playoff
TeamSpeedKills 4 team mock playoff
Obviously these mocks aren't done by committee members, I'm just saying if the committees overwhelming preference for conference winners was so publicized you'd think it would be reflected in these write-ups.
First Task for Panel in New Playoff System: Easing Suspicions of Bias
Usa Today 4 team mock playoff
Dennis Dodd 4 team mock playoff
NFL.com 4 team mock playoff
TeamSpeedKills 4 team mock playoff
Obviously these mocks aren't done by committee members, I'm just saying if the committees overwhelming preference for conference winners was so publicized you'd think it would be reflected in these write-ups.
First Task for Panel in New Playoff System: Easing Suspicions of Bias
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There will be no limit on the number of teams chosen from one conference, which could lead to a Southeastern Conference-dominated playoff. The SEC set a record this week with eight teams in the top 25 of the Associated Press poll, including three in the top 10.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:11 pm to MattLSU
LINK
When you look at those listed criteria that makes it a long shot for an at large who didn't win their conference to make the field.
1) Win/loss records are unlikely to help at large teams that don't win their conference; their W/L records are similar generally (MSU, UCF, Baylor, and Alabama have the same records this year).
2) Strength of schedule won't help teams like Alabama unless they start scheduling more aggressively out of conference. Note they have one win against a team in teh top 20 of the BCS in LSU whereas conference champs like Baylor, MSU, and Stanford may have better quality wins on their schedules (again, I refer you to the BCS rankings of teams like OU, tOSU, Oregon, ASU, and UCLA compared to Bama's best team beaten in LSU)
3) Head to head results - another way of saying win your conference. If you lost those games against teams you should have beaten to win your conference you are going to have an uphill battle to an at large berth.
4) Winning your conference - By definition this will not favor at large bids.
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The championship game will be managed by the conferences and will not be branded as a bowl game. The presidents also announced the creation of a selection committee that will rank the teams to play in the playoff, "giving all the teams an equal opportunity to participate." The committee will consider win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results and whether a team is a conference champion.
When you look at those listed criteria that makes it a long shot for an at large who didn't win their conference to make the field.
1) Win/loss records are unlikely to help at large teams that don't win their conference; their W/L records are similar generally (MSU, UCF, Baylor, and Alabama have the same records this year).
2) Strength of schedule won't help teams like Alabama unless they start scheduling more aggressively out of conference. Note they have one win against a team in teh top 20 of the BCS in LSU whereas conference champs like Baylor, MSU, and Stanford may have better quality wins on their schedules (again, I refer you to the BCS rankings of teams like OU, tOSU, Oregon, ASU, and UCLA compared to Bama's best team beaten in LSU)
3) Head to head results - another way of saying win your conference. If you lost those games against teams you should have beaten to win your conference you are going to have an uphill battle to an at large berth.
4) Winning your conference - By definition this will not favor at large bids.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:14 pm to MattLSU
quote:Can we agree this all came about because of the LSU-Bama rematch?
Not seeing where you coming up with this concept of favoring conference winners to the point of being blind
They cannot publicly say the play-off was created to help the other BCS conferences and hurt the SEC, but they are doing away with the computer polls and human polls to determine the 4 teams for a reason. It gives them flexibility on who they pick.
You are using the "eye-test" method for determining the 4 best teams....The BCS formula can pick the 4 best teams......BUT, they need and want flexibility. I think the only years the SEC gets more than 1 team in, is if multiple conferences have 2 loss champions.
Why is Bama more deserving than MSU or Baylor? All have 1 loss, actually Baylor and MSU both have better wins than Bama. Both won their conference. Bama didn't even win their division. Why is Bama entitled?
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