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re: China bars banks from bitcoin transactions

Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80150 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:33 am to
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The dealer just said on CNBC that he NEVER held the Bitcoins.


Was just about to come post this... Just heard it.

He said that if he would have had to "Hold" the bitcoins for any amount of time, he wouldn't have done the deal.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:37 am to
I wonder what sort of fees were charged for the conversion from Bitcoins to U.S. dollars?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

The dealer just said on CNBC that he NEVER held the Bitcoins. He was paid in US Dollars by a program that converts. He only accepts US dollars for payment.
He was very smart to do that. But someone got left with a LOT of exchange risk.

And the bitcoinistas can tout all the exchanges they want to with their "you don't have to hold the bitcoins, you can guarantee a price in fiat at any time." That doesn't remove the exchange risk. It only transfers the risk to someone else.

When the price crashed 50% between Thursday of last week and Saturday, I kept waiting for one of the exchanges to announce they were insolvent or one that would start delaying USD payments. MtGox went down for a while on Saturday, so it may have had some liquidity problems.

With the BTC China exchange cut off from lines of credit (loans) from Chinese banks, it will be the most likely one to shut down from a liquidity squeeze.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80150 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:04 pm to
Heads up, one of the heads of a Chinese Bitcoin exchange is about to be on CNBC...

Just thought yall may be interested
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

He was very smart to do that. But someone got left with a LOT of exchange risk.



I was wondering who the counterparty might be. All the headlines about this deal very very misleading. The Lamborghini dealer who made the Tesla sale was explicit. He said if someone who came to him offered gold he would make them exchange it first. "I only deal in US dollars." Dealer said money was wired.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80150 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:35 pm to
Wow, Bobby Lee just got destroyed by the CNBC anchors...

Didn't have an answer for the question of "Gold can be used for something, other currencies are backed by central banks, what about Bitcoin?"
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1182 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:19 pm to
Funny, you don't seem to be posting about it when the price goes up
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:13 pm to
I leave that to you.
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1182 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:12 am to
Sometimes you eat the bar...
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