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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:16 am to LaBornNRaised
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If he raped her then he should go to jail for life with no parole. If she consented to sexual relations then later regretted it and is making up the rape afterwards, she should go to jail for life.
There was something very similar that happened at UW with a basketball player a couple of year ago. A girl cried rape, everyone accused this guy of being a rapist, then when they actually dug into it the girl confessed that it was consensual and just made up the rape story. Because of seeing that, I'm waiting until this whole thing is final before drawing any sort of conclusions whatsoever.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:17 am to TDawg1313
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A girl cried rape, everyone accused this guy of being a rapist, then when they actually dug into it the girl confessed that it was consensual and just made up the rape story.
This should equal jail time.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:28 am to LaBornNRaised
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If he raped her then he should go to jail for life with no parole. If she consented to sexual relations then later regretted it and is making up the rape afterwards, she should go to jail for life.
yeah the punishment should be the same imo. I honestly have zero tolerance for instances like that.
that said, I don't think that's what this is. Perhaps if she just started claiming rape now, but she didn't. This was all the way back in december, which makes me think there may actually have been foul play.
and don't even get me started on the whole TPD situation, it just reeks of a cover up
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:32 am to Ostrich
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A girl cried rape, everyone accused this guy of being a rapist, then when they actually dug into it the girl confessed that it was consensual and just made up the rape story.
This should equal jail time.
I have that knee jerk feeling as well but when it might decrease the likelihood of a person admitting they lied I'm not sure it would be a good idea in practice. Supposedly the most common reason people lie about being raped is embarrassment over sleeping with a person they shouldn't have slept with (then a lie emerges to a boyfriend or husband or male relative)
But all of this seems speculative. If there is physical evidence that she was traumatized combined with evidence (DNA) that sex took place her story becomes pretty credible.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:52 am to Gavroche
I'd be slightly suspicious of the allegation if she had just accused him recently of an incident that took place so long ago, but it sounds like she reported this accordingly and the cops either botched it or deliberately covered it up.
I'm also wary of accusing any woman of crying rape for "attention" or whatever other reason; it's a delicate situation. Like others have said, I will reserve full judgement until this all plays out.
I'm also wary of accusing any woman of crying rape for "attention" or whatever other reason; it's a delicate situation. Like others have said, I will reserve full judgement until this all plays out.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:08 am to LaBornNRaised
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If he raped her then he should go to jail for life with no parole. If she consented to sexual relations then later regretted it and is making up the rape afterwards, she should go to jail for life.
False rape accusations are a serious problem. Life imprisonment might be a bit much, but it needs to be dealt with more harshly than it is at present.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:09 am to League Champs
Does he beat this case?
Is it fair to say his FSU career is over?
Is it fair to say his FSU career is over?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:14 am to KosmoCramer
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She wins by getting raped?
What he said is that it's difficult for the accuser not to win if it goes to court.
And although he probably overstates his point, but his underlying point is correct. It's tough for a guy accused of rape to prove his innocence in court.
Go read rule 412 of the federal rules of evidence. And then read rule 413. And then report back. We'll wait.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:24 am to DeonG
The State of Florida vs Jameis Winston
I don't see where she "wins" anything.
Even if convicted her life is changed forever, and it's been turned over twice now.
I don't see where she "wins" anything.
Even if convicted her life is changed forever, and it's been turned over twice now.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:27 am to Kcoyote
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Think you're being slightly over dramatic?
No. You okay with rape sicko?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:29 am to molsusports
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I have that knee jerk feeling as well but when it might decrease the likelihood of a person admitting they lied I'm not sure it would be a good idea in practice. Supposedly the most common reason people lie about being raped is embarrassment over sleeping with a person they shouldn't have slept with (then a lie emerges to a boyfriend or husband or male relative)
attention seeking
buyer's remorse (the next day they regret what they've done)
financial motivation
alibi (rape as the story invented to "excuse" a liaison)
How do you avoid false rape claims?
1. make her put the rubber on you.
2. film it.
3. buy the girl breakfast the next morning.
4. get a confirmation text (text a girl after you've banged her saying you had fun hanging out with her. She'll text back. You're gold.)
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:32 am to DeonG
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False rape accusations are a serious problem. Life imprisonment might be a bit much, but it needs to be dealt with more harshly than it is at present.
It sounds extreme but if lying, the accuser should get the same sentence the person they accused would have gotten.
Watch how fast shite changes. When someone says they were raped it would hold a lot more weight. Sucks to think like that because rape is by far the worst crime someone could commit outside of murder but its cried somuch nowadays by attention whores its the way it is.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:32 am to KosmoCramer
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The State of Florida vs Jameis Winston
I don't see where she "wins" anything.
Even if convicted her life is changed forever, and it's been turned over twice now.
Do some research on false rape claims. The numbers are staggering. There is a website about false rape claims. Start there. LINK /
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:33 am to DeonG
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attention seeking
buyer's remorse (the next day they regret what they've done)
financial motivation
alibi (rape as the story invented to "excuse" a liaison)
How do you avoid false rape claims?
1. make her put the rubber on you.
2. film it.
3. buy the girl breakfast the next morning.
4. get a confirmation text (text a girl after you've banged her saying you had fun hanging out with her. She'll text back. You're gold.)
You sound like a real winner.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:34 am to DeonG
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Do some research on false rape claims. The numbers are staggering. There is a website about false rape claims. Start there. LINK /
You're an insensitive stupid assfrick.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:35 am to DeonG
Just fwiw:
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:36 am to LaBornNRaised
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It sounds extreme but if lying, the accuser should get the same sentence the person they accused would have gotten.
Watch how fast shite changes. When someone says they were raped it would hold a lot more weight. Sucks to think like that because rape is by far the worst crime someone could commit outside of murder but its cried somuch nowadays by attention whores its the way it is.
I understand, man. You're preaching to the choir. It's a serious serious problem. I just think life imprisonment is excessive, and, practically speaking, is just never gonna happen. But I agree that the problem should be addressed with much more severe punishments than at present.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:37 am to KosmoCramer
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Just fwiw:
Nice propaganda. Should we turn toward actual facts now, or would you like to paste in some more feminist propaganda?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:42 am to DeonG
You're literally too stupid to insult.
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