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re: Payton's Inexcusable Timeout Management
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:18 pm to CptRusty
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:18 pm to CptRusty
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In a strategic confrontation, such as chess, war, or football , the single largest advantage one side can have over another is foreknowledge of their opponents plan of action. No matter what other advantages or disadvantages might exist...if you know what your opponent is about to do, then you have the upper hand.
This is what CSP bought with his time out. Not the 1 fricking second you seem so enamored with.
Wrong. Knowing somebody will seize a better option that you afford to them does not render an advantage over not giving them that option at all
If you are playing chess and you put your king in a shitty position, you know your opponent will come after it. Just because you know your opponent is coming after it doesn't make it an advantage. It just means your king is in a shitty position and both you and your opponent know it.
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:23 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Wrong. Knowing somebody will seize a better option that you afford to them does not render an advantage over not giving them that option at all
If you are playing chess and you put your king in a shitty position, you know your opponent will come after it. Just because you know your opponent is coming after it doesn't make it an advantage. It just means your king is in a shitty position and both you and your opponent know it.
thats like saying that the saints were in a shitty position because they knew that the niners will pass?
peyton is a genius, and we won the game. if he didn't call that timeout, then we would not have had as much time to drive down for the gw field goal
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
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If you are playing chess and you put your king in a shitty position, you know your opponent will come after it. Just because you know your opponent is coming after it doesn't make it an advantage. It just means your king is in a shitty position and both you and your opponent know it.
What a ridiculous straw man argument.
Assuming we don't line the entire defense up 25 yards down the field, then we have a large advantage in the situation in question.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
..you uh..check out the press conference? 
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:34 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Wrong. Knowing somebody will seize a better option that you afford to them does not render an advantage over not giving them that option at all
You have yet to explain how calling that timeout gives them a better option. Not calling the timeout gives them more options. Why can't you understand this? It wasn't the 49ers timeout at stake here, it was the Saints'. If the 2 min warning wasn't a concern, the 49ers options were wide open. Do they go for the first through the air, or do they run the ball and force a timeout? It's anybody's guess. The simple fact that the clock was going to stop regardless, forcing a timeout is no longer an option. The overwhelmingly logical choice is to pass.
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If you are playing chess and you put your king in a shitty position, you know your opponent will come after it. Just because you know your opponent is coming after it doesn't make it an advantage. It just means your king is in a shitty position and both you and your opponent know it.
There's this really obscure term in our language for such a strategy. It's called "bait".
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