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re: Davis is shooting 55% from midrange so far..

Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:34 am to
Posted by 42
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Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:34 am to
Why not just do it from 3 instead of the long 2? Ask Durant and James why he takes as many long 2's as 3's in that chart?

Ask Durant why his big changes were making all shots better and speading the threat around, not eliminating long 2's.

I think we basically agree, and the charts support the claim that the best scorers can and do score effecrively from midrange.

And I get the extra point of yield necessitating less accuracy. That is not the point. The point is for the team to be able to score effectively by keeping the defense from knowing what is going to happen, at least in a partial information sense. It's basically presenting the bad guys with maximum entropy and making them deal with it. Trying to optimize every shot's value individually gives too much info to the defense, so they focus and erode your yield.
Posted by The Estimator
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/4/13 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Why not just do it from 3 instead of the long 2? Ask Durant and James why he takes as many long 2's as 3's in that chart?

Ask Durant why his big changes were making all shots better and speading the threat around, not eliminating long 2's.

I think we basically agree, and the charts support the claim that the best scorers can and do score effecrively from midrange.

And I get the extra point of yield necessitating less accuracy. That is not the point. The point is for the team to be able to score effectively by keeping the defense from knowing what is going to happen, at least in a partial information sense. It's basically presenting the bad guys with maximum entropy and making them deal with it. Trying to optimize every shot's value individually gives too much info to the defense, so they focus and erode your yield.


This is right.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:31 am to
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Trying to optimize every shot's value individually gives too much info to the defense,

this makes no sense

in terms of defensive spacing, the physical difference in a long 2 and 3 is almost 0. it's like 2 feet or so

quote:

Ask Durant why his big changes were making all shots better and speading the threat around, not eliminating long 2's.

he, and lebron, shoot fewer long 2s and more 3s now, though
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