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re: HIMYM The Final Season
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:00 am to Gotta have DeZeier
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:00 am to Gotta have DeZeier
I think the show deftly completed the arc of its problematic character. Barney is a funny character who, if he existed in the real world, would be a horrifying person. He's a degenerate liar who has possibly raped hundreds of women (I say possibly if you consider invalid consent to be rape -- I don't actually think he's a rapist, but I am pointing out some people would and the very least, his behavior is icky).
Now, the show has always dealt with this by always letting us see the wounded little boy underneath the posturing. It gave Barney some depth that a lesser actor than NPH might have fumbled. Barney could've easily been a cardboard character and not a real person. But the more you make him a real person, the more his elaborate lies actually ARE a dramatic problem. Robin's got a point. And while I like their relationship and always have (and my heart not so secretly fills with glee when douchey bros get pissed that Barney has been neutered by growing up), even his proposal was based on deceit.
For Barney to then see the best relationship he knows inspire him to form a marriage based on trust and honesty is a remarkable and terrific character arc. Barney didn't find the locket, but he doesn't need to lie anymore for things to be legendary. It doesn't clean up his past, but it made everything he did leading to this point when he found the person he was willing to change for. The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
Now, the show has always dealt with this by always letting us see the wounded little boy underneath the posturing. It gave Barney some depth that a lesser actor than NPH might have fumbled. Barney could've easily been a cardboard character and not a real person. But the more you make him a real person, the more his elaborate lies actually ARE a dramatic problem. Robin's got a point. And while I like their relationship and always have (and my heart not so secretly fills with glee when douchey bros get pissed that Barney has been neutered by growing up), even his proposal was based on deceit.
For Barney to then see the best relationship he knows inspire him to form a marriage based on trust and honesty is a remarkable and terrific character arc. Barney didn't find the locket, but he doesn't need to lie anymore for things to be legendary. It doesn't clean up his past, but it made everything he did leading to this point when he found the person he was willing to change for. The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:05 am to Baloo
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The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
wow. Great write-up though. I think you nailed it and summed it up perfectly. I have to completely agree with you here
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:08 am to Baloo
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I think the show deftly completed the arc of its problematic character. Barney is a funny character who, if he existed in the real world, would be a horrifying person. He's a degenerate liar who has possibly raped hundreds of women (I say possibly if you consider invalid consent to be rape -- I don't actually think he's a rapist, but I am pointing out some people would and the very least, his behavior is icky).
Now, the show has always dealt with this by always letting us see the wounded little boy underneath the posturing. It gave Barney some depth that a lesser actor than NPH might have fumbled. Barney could've easily been a cardboard character and not a real person. But the more you make him a real person, the more his elaborate lies actually ARE a dramatic problem. Robin's got a point. And while I like their relationship and always have (and my heart not so secretly fills with glee when douchey bros get pissed that Barney has been neutered by growing up), even his proposal was based on deceit.
For Barney to then see the best relationship he knows inspire him to form a marriage based on trust and honesty is a remarkable and terrific character arc. Barney didn't find the locket, but he doesn't need to lie anymore for things to be legendary. It doesn't clean up his past, but it made everything he did leading to this point when he found the person he was willing to change for. The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
EXACTLY....well said.
The thing that is missed in all of this are the suttle hints of past episodes that people missed.
It has been well known to avid followers that Robin and Ted don't end up together......The closure was the only thing viewers were missing but YOUR AUNT ROBIN had been said MANY MANY TIMES.......
I've been impressed with the last 3 epidsodes more so than the crap leading up to the wedding.......although there were some cool answers incorporated into it.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:09 am to Baloo
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(and my heart not so secretly fills with glee when douchey bros get pissed that Barney has been neutered by growing up),
It's a comedy, Barney is a hilarious, even though absolutely horrible character to women. I can see why you don't like his old character because of the way he treated an entire gender throughout the show, but it made for a good TV comedy. However the character would have lost a lot by growing up well prior to the ending of the show, his growing up doesn't bother me due to that one simple fact that we won't have to see him as this person beyond the series finale. If the series continued, it would of been the absolute death of the character as they pretty much did with Robin when they made her Barney 2.0 instead of the character she had been throughout the series.
I don't know if this has been said here, but where in the crap was Robin's sister for the wedding?
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:16 am to Baloo
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The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
He even said he was sort of said to see that chapter of his life was over...then recants.
One could easily see the parallel to his old poon hounding lying ways.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:55 am to Baloo
quote:
I think the show deftly completed the arc of its problematic character. Barney is a funny character who, if he existed in the real world, would be a horrifying person. He's a degenerate liar who has possibly raped hundreds of women (I say possibly if you consider invalid consent to be rape -- I don't actually think he's a rapist, but I am pointing out some people would and the very least, his behavior is icky).
Now, the show has always dealt with this by always letting us see the wounded little boy underneath the posturing. It gave Barney some depth that a lesser actor than NPH might have fumbled. Barney could've easily been a cardboard character and not a real person. But the more you make him a real person, the more his elaborate lies actually ARE a dramatic problem. Robin's got a point. And while I like their relationship and always have (and my heart not so secretly fills with glee when douchey bros get pissed that Barney has been neutered by growing up), even his proposal was based on deceit.
For Barney to then see the best relationship he knows inspire him to form a marriage based on trust and honesty is a remarkable and terrific character arc. Barney didn't find the locket, but he doesn't need to lie anymore for things to be legendary. It doesn't clean up his past, but it made everything he did leading to this point when he found the person he was willing to change for. The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
Everything you just said is spot on. Wow.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:40 pm to Baloo
quote:
I think the show deftly completed the arc of its problematic character. Barney is a funny character who, if he existed in the real world, would be a horrifying person. He's a degenerate liar who has possibly raped hundreds of women (I say possibly if you consider invalid consent to be rape -- I don't actually think he's a rapist, but I am pointing out some people would and the very least, his behavior is icky).
Now, the show has always dealt with this by always letting us see the wounded little boy underneath the posturing. It gave Barney some depth that a lesser actor than NPH might have fumbled. Barney could've easily been a cardboard character and not a real person. But the more you make him a real person, the more his elaborate lies actually ARE a dramatic problem. Robin's got a point. And while I like their relationship and always have (and my heart not so secretly fills with glee when douchey bros get pissed that Barney has been neutered by growing up), even his proposal was based on deceit.
For Barney to then see the best relationship he knows inspire him to form a marriage based on trust and honesty is a remarkable and terrific character arc. Barney didn't find the locket, but he doesn't need to lie anymore for things to be legendary. It doesn't clean up his past, but it made everything he did leading to this point when he found the person he was willing to change for. The final slap is the last piece of his old life. He starts fresh.
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