re: Panthers/Browns hypothetical Cam trade

Indianapolis at least has a competent coaching staff and a front office that knows what they are doing.

I think it's hilarious how this board thinks Carolina's failures are Cam's fault.

"OMG he is cocky so I don't like him."

He's an NFL player. 90% of them are probably arrogant.

"OMG he put a towel over his head. He isn't a leader."

At least he hates losing. Michael Jordan bitched about everything. Tom Brady is practically on the fricking rule committee. Do they get a pass because they inherited better situations?

Cam plays on a team where the only focus is on defense. The young man is playing with below average offensive players who have been playing in the NFL since Cam was in middle school.

Yeah, it's his fault.

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In 1 1/8 seasons, Andrew Luck has won one less game than Cam has in 2 1/8 seasons.

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Cam "lost" against Seattle this year when the Panthers starting RB fumbled inside the Seattle 10 yd line with 5:25 left in the game on a drive that would have given the Panthers the lead with a touchdown. The Seahawks recovered the fumble and held the ball until the clock ticked 0:00 because the Panthers defense couldn't get the ball back.

Cam "lost" against Buffalo the next week when the Panthers head coach, with 1:30 left in the game, a 20-17 lead, and Buffalo with no timeouts, chose to kick an utterly useless field goal on 4th and 1 rather than allowing his offense to get that one yard and run the clock out. He kicked the field goal, got a 23-17 lead, then handed the game to his defense who allowed Buffalo to march down the field in 1:30 with no timeouts and score a TD to win 24-23.

There's your logical fallacy in declaring that Cam "lost" these games. Cam has "lost" a LOT of games like this over the last 2+ years where the offense hands the defense a lead and blows it or the brain-dead head coach's stupidity leads to a loss.