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re: PAC12 Speaks about ASU/Wisky refs

Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:10 pm to
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but that dude on here yesterday was adamant the officials were faultless

I said that they followed the rules, which is true. Notice that the Pac-12 didn't cite any rule that the officials failed to follow. They more or less are saying that the officials should have been quicker ("high standard").

If Wisconsin hadn't blown the game, they wouldn't have to rely on the officials' "standard."
Posted by SprintFun
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:12 pm to
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I said that they followed the rules, which is true. Notice that the Pac-12 didn't cite any rule that the officials failed to follow. They more or less are saying that the officials should have been quicker ("high standard").

If Wisconsin hadn't blown the game, they wouldn't have to rely on the officials' "standard."


Stop. Just stop.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I said that they followed the rules, which is true. Notice that the Pac-12 didn't cite any rule that the officials failed to follow. They more or less are saying that the officials should have been quicker ("high standard").

You also said there was no problem with the amount of time they took to spot the ball, which was the main problem everyone was talking about. You were wrong, and it has been confirmed.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:25 pm to
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Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:26 pm to
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If Wisconsin hadn't blown the game, they wouldn't have to rely on the officials' "standard."


you're worse then the ASU homers on their forums. The spin machine is in full gear there.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 5:42 pm to
I'm in ballscaster's corner on this. There is huge leeway in how much time an official takes to set the ball because each down is different. The TV audience has a better view than the players on the field, and even the audience was confused by what the QB did. So I think the official judged that the ASU guy hanging onto the ball an extra 5 seconds (acting like possession was being disputed) was not a penalty and not an abnormal delay (if it was a normal situation). The Pac-12 acknowledged that the officials should have acted with more urgency, appeasing the critics, but if Wisconsin had no more time outs left, then they took a huge gamble that those last few seconds would go smoothly and without complication. It was the Wisconsin QB that caused the confusion, even to the TV audience. So while the officials did not perform as well as they should have, Wisconsin caused the situation (no timeouts and confusing QB action) and to me it looks like they took an unnecessary gamble and lost. My position is that it was a minor judgment mistake by the officials that just happened to have huge consequences for Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is outraged that the officials did not act with the same sense of urgency they had. So how do you think they are going to act the next time they have a similar situation? Are they going to expect perfection from the refs? Not likely. They are going to realize that things don't always go to plan in a tight time window, and they are going to kick the field goal from the hash.


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