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Hill decision stirs up debate, Armchair judges replay Jackson’s call
Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:28 pm
Finally a balanced, reasonable article about Hill...It is the advocate, but hey...
LINK
Required reading for the likes of Gregg Doyel, Guilbeau, Gary Patterson, ESPN, and the rest of the chattering class that wants to pillory Jeremy Hill (and by extension our Louisiana legal system, along with Les Miles).
From Judge Jackson:
And DA Moore about the revocation hearing:
Anyway, flame way Rant.
SIAP. But not really. Don't care.
LINK
Required reading for the likes of Gregg Doyel, Guilbeau, Gary Patterson, ESPN, and the rest of the chattering class that wants to pillory Jeremy Hill (and by extension our Louisiana legal system, along with Les Miles).
From Judge Jackson:
quote:
“I resent the implication that has been created by the media that this case has been handled any differently from any other case,” Jackson said in a telephone interview Friday, responding to questions about Monday’s hearing. “The only thing that has been different about this case is the amount of media attention that it’s been given.”
And DA Moore about the revocation hearing:
quote:
That decision, District Attorney Hillar Moore III said, fulfilled a promise prosecutors made to the mother of the 14-year-old victim in Hill’s first criminal case.
Anyway, flame way Rant.
SIAP. But not really. Don't care.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 7:31 pm
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Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:44 pm to Pauldean
Read this today and I agree with Judge Jackson and not because JH33 is a LSU football player. When you look at the person and what they have to lose or gain determines the decisions made by the court. JH33 has incurred scrapes with the law but it is in the best interest of the taxpayers to evaluate the likelihood that the defendant will straighten up or plunge deeper into bad behavior patterns.
JH33 is on the cusp of falling to the negative side and jail time would likely push that to a certainty. This chance/break will likely be his last if he does not take advantage of it but if successful could put him back in society's positive side.
JH33 is on the cusp of falling to the negative side and jail time would likely push that to a certainty. This chance/break will likely be his last if he does not take advantage of it but if successful could put him back in society's positive side.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:20 pm to Pauldean
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You can’t get away with doing that, particularly when you’re living in a glass house already,” Moore said. “That’s why we felt that jail — or some type of punishment, whether home incarceration or detention — would have sent a better message to the community.”
Oh yea because you're doing such a great job cleaning the streets of Baton Rouge up Mr. Moore
Posted on 8/11/13 at 4:04 pm to Pauldean
Why is the judge commenting on the trial? This is unethical on her behalf, no?
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 4:37 pm to Pauldean
Hillar Moore's comments bother me. And the mother of the 14 year old should be more worried about why her daughter is offering to blow every guy she meets instead of continuing to try to crucify Hill.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 11:32 pm to Pauldean
The role of the courts and the university is to make individuals a better and productive member of the society. Ask those who wanted to sent Hills to jail or kick him out of the team if he would have become a better member of the society by doing that. You have to see the potentials in him vs the further harm. To me Hill sounds more intelligent than a lot of football players I have seen and the judge and coaches see that.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:31 am to Pauldean
A thug is a thug is a thug. You can't change a Tigers stripes (so to speak). He's a great football player but a menace to society. Sucker punching a helpless individual like that is uncalled for and criminal. He could have killed the guy. My respect for him and Miles both went down the drain with that video. I'm just calling it like I see it. I hope Hill gets his act together but I doubt it very seriously. Miles is only keeping him on the team because he's a great football player. He's not molding this young man to be a success in real life at all. A bunch of hot air and b.s. ..... It's all about the "W's." Who are we kidding. I still love my Tigers but Miles legacy as a role model and helping kids become better people while at LSU on football scholarship is a joke. Saban would have kicked his arse off the team right then and there -but that's another heated topic as well. It's late and I'm tired of all the crap that goes on in the LSU football program from a negative standpoint. And while I'm on a negative role what does that say about the character of this football team when they allow Hill (by vote) to continue to be on the team? If he were my teammate he would have been voted off the team. What a loser.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:51 am to Pauldean
If this is the way the judge handles all of her cases and not just those that involve LSU star running backs, then the judge has bigger problems. She let Hill off easy and now she is catching criticism for it.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:22 am to Pauldean
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the 14-year-old victim
Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:47 am to Pauldean
I'll try and say something here that won't earn me the wrath of all the "sunshine pumpers" but I don't think it will,seems if you say anything negative or remotely negative about a player or Miles you are toast,but I don't really care either.
The fact that this even made the front page of the morning advocate yesterday should bring some concerns to the table.All the trouble from last season should have been an example to the newer and incoming players of what not to do,suspending a player for a few games didn't seem to teach a lesson to Mathieu,maybe if you make them sit out the whole season? I don't know,I know the story with Hill and the high school freshman...doesn't matter if she offered him a BJ,we should all know that the law ain't gonna see it as "consensual".
He was on probation and violated his probation and is still on the team? Now that's what I call teaching him a lesson...I compare that to putting a kid in "timeout",some will learn their lesson and some will say well if this is all that's going to happen...I don't agree with the decision to keep him on the team,but that's just me,and while I agree that the team should have some input on Hill's reinstatement,I don't think they should have had the final decision.I'm done,so I'm sure that what I've said will be picked apart,but whatever,it won't change my opinion.
Have a great day everyone!
The fact that this even made the front page of the morning advocate yesterday should bring some concerns to the table.All the trouble from last season should have been an example to the newer and incoming players of what not to do,suspending a player for a few games didn't seem to teach a lesson to Mathieu,maybe if you make them sit out the whole season? I don't know,I know the story with Hill and the high school freshman...doesn't matter if she offered him a BJ,we should all know that the law ain't gonna see it as "consensual".
He was on probation and violated his probation and is still on the team? Now that's what I call teaching him a lesson...I compare that to putting a kid in "timeout",some will learn their lesson and some will say well if this is all that's going to happen...I don't agree with the decision to keep him on the team,but that's just me,and while I agree that the team should have some input on Hill's reinstatement,I don't think they should have had the final decision.I'm done,so I'm sure that what I've said will be picked apart,but whatever,it won't change my opinion.
Have a great day everyone!
Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:56 am to Pauldean
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menace to society
Honestly, he received a bj from a girl who was pretty much willing to give him one and punch a guy from a reason we couldn't gain evidence as to why, could've been racial words slung at him. He didn't do drugs, didn't rape anyone and surely didn't murder nobody. Sounds like your average guy. Cut the kid some slack.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:18 am to Pauldean
I have no problem w/ the decision of the Court, but I feel Hill should have had to spend one weekend in the parish jail as part of his probation violation.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:55 am to Pauldean
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The comment "sounds like your average guy", shows you thier mindset. Hopefully they are just young and will change thier views as they mature.
The kid was offered a bj, as a guy you're gonna accept. Then a white guy for all we know was blurting out the "n" word or something, which gets offensive and results in fights. It's life. This isn't some third world medieval type shite. It's just a guy being a guy.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:00 am to Pauldean
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From Judge Jackson:
quote:
“I resent the implication that has been created by the media that this case has been handled any differently from any other case,” Jackson said in a telephone interview Friday, responding to questions about Monday’s hearing. “The only thing that has been different about this case is the amount of media attention that it’s been given.
Good for her.
Many of us that actually know a thing or two about the legal system tried explaining last week how rare it is for anyone to go to jail under the circumstances that Hill was facing.
The idea that this was an "LSU judge" taking care of an LSU player is just so uninformed, or more likely intentionally dishonest, from writers that are supposedly paid to know what they are writing about is unsettling.
These ideas get spread around the country to casual readers that then perpetuate the lies and misinformation as fact.
It's a truly scary and abused flaw in our 24 hour media culture.
I'm glad that the judge spoke up for herself, although I'm 100% certain her retort will not receive even a fraction of the coverage that the media attack on her and her courtroom did.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:09 am to Pauldean
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You can't just punch somebody unless it was in self-defense which this wasn't
So you're telling me if someone called you racial names, maybe talked about you mom or gf you wouldn't want to kick his arse? If so you have some tiny marbles.
And please don't highlight "didn't rape anybody" acting like he did rape someone. If receiving a bj from a girl from his own high school is rape, they should've booked me a long time ago cat.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 11:11 am
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:26 am to Pauldean
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That doesn't matter. No amount of name-calling gives you carte blanche to punch someone. You can be mad all you want. Call the guy some names back. Try and get him to punch you and then beat the hell out of him. At least then you have the argument of self-defense. That is not what happened here. Not even close.
Again you have tiny marbles, or have never been in a fight and if you have you apparently got the shite kicked out of you using this tactic.
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The difference is that I doubt you shoved your dick down the throat of a girl that was not a willing participant. Again, read the bill of information.
This was never shown or quoted by anybody with any type of sufficient evidence. It's still at this point just a bj
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:41 am to Pauldean
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Which is why the charge was ultimately reduced and a plea was agreed to. Doesn't change the facts of what happened. The only thing that changed is that the DA was not going to meet their burden of proof at trial so they took what they could get in a plea.
Exactly. No evidence means no rape. Just teens being teens, which now an days means a lack of morals and value, namely the fourteen year old girl willing to give him a wet one. Stop making J Hill seem worse than he really is.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 11:44 am
Posted on 8/12/13 at 12:00 pm to Pauldean
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Exactly. An accusation. You know why it didn't proceed to trial? Because there was a video that showed the girl wasn't unwilling. She also refused to testify. Please quit using the bill of info as your evidence.
Thank you. And the fact that she didn't testify means it was either her willingness or she enjoyed it. Like I said, sounds like an average guy, and its just a bj
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:24 pm to Pauldean
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I am very much a lawyer
Well then GTFO and go do lawyers things. Bitching about Jeremy Hill on here ain't gonna win you any cases!
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:51 pm to Pauldean
no joke, unless you show us a pick of that law degree or a video on Hill raping chicks then you've just insulted half this thread!
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