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re: 2011 Alternative Scenario

Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Gardevoir
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:17 am to
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Maybe because selectors don't have the Sight and can't see the future? They have to make their selection based on the data on hand, at the time. They can't make a decision based on future data because they aren't precogs. Also, we have no idea how that team would've played had they not been screwed in the bowl selection. K-State had a habit of sleep walking through their games after getting hosed out of the BCS over the years. Can't blame them, either.

The BCS is supposed to rank #1 and #2. What do those numbers mean if #3 or #4 has a great shot at beating #1 and/or #2 without help? They can't make a decision based on the future, but if they'd given the teams the rematch then Michigan and Ohio State wouldn't have been exposed by better teams. We could just admit that we've been missing a sound playoff system for a long time, but that's irrelevant back then. The BCS was all we had, and we know Michigan and Ohio State were not the best. Regardless of the team across from you, how do you not prepare and get up for the national championship game? We're talking about the chance to win the coveted crystal football and finish the season ranked #1 here, not to mention being declared the national champions by the #1 accepted rankings system.

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The losss, of course, means something. It just doesn't mean EVERYTHING. I prefer to rank teams by their wins, not their losses. I care what your accomplishments are. So, of course the ISU loss matters. It was also on the road, after a short week, after a campus tragedy, in overtime, and on a controversial call. As far as losses go, it isn't a crippling one.

Oklahoma State stretched their lead to 17 points after halftime. When did they find out that the basketball coaches had died? That excuse is getting old. Did they just find out when Iowa State started mounting the comeback? Were they even close to the coaches whom died in the tragedy or was the media just using those people's deaths to push for Oklahoma State?

Comparing accomplishments eh? What legit. accomplishments did 2012 Georgia have? They played the weakest schedule of the East's 3 best teams. Arkansas > Auburn, though both were garbage. LSU > Ole Miss, though their game was competitive and close. Texas A&M and LSU >>> Auburn and Ole Miss. Georgia only had one good win, and that was against the undefeated Gators that won above expectations. I could list a few reasons not to believe Georgia deserved to represent the division or was even the best team; however, then I'd have to defend Alabama if a few arguments of those arguments could be used against 2012 Alabama. Of course some here will only see homerism instead of objectively analyzing those arguments, so there's not much of a point in going there.

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As for close games against A&M, KSU, and Stanford... is your argument, seriously, that Okie State beat a lot of really good teams? Stanford was arguably the 4th or 5th best team in the country. Yeah, I'm impressed by a win over them. KSU was really good. So was A&M. Know what we call narrow escapes? WINS. Wins are a good thing, and those were really good wins.

That's not my argument. Stanford could not compete with Oregon. Kansas State was blown out in the Cotton Bowl by the team that Alabama owned. A&M blew several double digit halftime leads, that's not the sign of a good team; it just means they had the potential to be great. When you lose as many games as they did, potential is irrelevant. Those wins don't look good when compared to other teams' wins over those teams. 44-10 is the only win that wasn't topped, but it was Oklahoma State. A terrible Texas Tech team managed to beat Oklahoma already; that dulls Oklahoma's luster. What's worse getting blown out by a team that many consider among the best in the country or losing at home to a terrible, unranked squad? I'll take the blowout loss to a highly ranked opponent over losing to a garbage team at home; both are embarrassing, but I'd rather lose to a quality team.

Oklahoma State was very good; Alabama was great. That may sound biased, but oh well. Everyone here seems pretty grounded in their beliefs.

I will address the comments when I get a chance. I've taken a long break from volunteering and need to see what other work I can do now.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:53 am to
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Of course some here will only see homerism instead of objectively analyzing those arguments, so there's not much of a point in going there.
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