re: 2011 Alternative Scenario

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Gardevoir

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Your true troll has come out. You don't want a good healthy debate. You're not interested in any perspective other than your own.


The following statements have NOTHING to do with whether Alabama deserved a Rematch after losing at home and not winning their division or conference with Big 12 Champ OSU not even getting a chance to face the SEC Champ:

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At least Alabama doesn't lose to bad teams nowadays, can LSU say the same?

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I've just pointed out the remarkable similarities between your 2003 season and our 2012 season. They're practically equal

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In 2003, you didn't even face the Big 12 champ, and you only won by 7!
Lord knows what would have happened if you faced 2003 USC.

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What are you going to do: discredit 2011 Arkansas? You didn't take the lead against them until late in the second quarter, and that was after the Honey Badger gave your team the spark they needed to win the ball game.

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Nice stat. I can bring up LSU's bad losses in the same time span. What happens if we go back to 2009? 2008? Right, it doesn't make LSU look so good

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On the rare occasions you actually manage to get back to the issue at hand, 2011 Alabama vs. OSU, you sound like a petulant child:

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It's easy to stand shitty images that support your stance.

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It's a "shitty image" because it directly proves the argument against you???

And if it's so easy to stand behind such images, I'd love to see the image that perfectly sums up Alabama's superior claim over OSU. I really would. Please post

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Do you really want to turn this into a debate regarding the strength of the rankings?

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Well, what is this a debate about if not the strength of the rankings??? You rest your hat on the BCS placing Alabama in the NCG (STRICTLY due to the rankings btw, because 5/7 objective computer polls ranked OSU #2 LINK), not to mention 71% of the over 48,000 fans across the country that voted as evidenced by the "shitty image" already provided.

Had OSU not had any votes lower than FOURTH, OSU would have been #2. It took several ethically questionable voters to put OSU FIFTH or SIXTH for Alabama to finish at #2 above them.

After their loss to LSU, Alabama beat 6-6 Mississippi State by 17, FCS Georgia Southern by 24 while giving up 300 yards rushing, and 7-5 Auburn by 28.

What about that screams at voters that Alabama was actually deserving of playing a team they already lost to 3 games before for the national championship over an at least equally deserving Big 12 champ that had not had the opportunity to play the #1 team yet and was coming off of a 34 point beatdown of the former #1 team in the country that had been in the top 10 throughout the year?

You give so little respect to an obviously very good 2011 OSU team that it clearly shows your inability to be at all impartial. You dismiss OSU's Big 12 Championship team as a video game team the same way many dismissed Oregon's ability to compete against an elite SEC team like Auburn before the 2010 NCG, and that game was literally a tie game until the very last play of the game.

That is quite simply idiotic or just a dishonest.


No one here is badmouthing your excellent coach or premiere program. Even if Alabama hadn't been handed a Rematch in 2011, they would still be easily considered one of the top two programs in the country because of their recruiting prowess and excellent coaching.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would argue with Saban being referred to as the best coach in the country.

Pointing out that his teams have had late season home losses isn't an indictment on the program. It's a fact that I'm sure even Saban himself would say it's something that he desperately wants to stop.


So you getting all bent out of shape and bringing up 2003 or 2012 when anyone points out the injustice of the 2011 scenario just shows your inability to tell us how Alabama actually was deserving over OSU.