re: Barry Larkin says no one associated with PEDs will be elected to HOF

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My rebuttal is how do we know who used?

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Already been over that.

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You said we just know.

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No, I haven't.

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why are the players to bear the burden of punishment?

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Some of the players cheated. Some of the players did not cheat. That's why.

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If drugs are so bad, they will have the cancer and die early.

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Not the issue. Whether or not drugs are bad is irrelevant. They are illegal and used to gain unfair competitive advantage. Players who don't cheat should be protected from this.

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And how was it "selfish contempt for the game"?

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Breaking the rules for one's own personal gain. How do you not get this?

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This is just an ex post facto law and the invention of retroactive sanctions to unproven and untried allegations.

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No it isn't. Some players are known to have cheated, whether it be by failed drug tests, circumstantial evidence, or verbal confession. We know this. There is nothing unproven or untried about this. I would vote for none of these players, and I sincerely hope they never get honored with a place in the Hall.

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I do think there's a difference between a guy like Raffy and others, as he actually failed a drug test.

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As do I; I get the feeling you think that I disagree with you on this.

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But I'm a big fan of due process, and keeping everybody out because we know they all cheated and inventing a rule to be applied to a crime retroactively just makes my skin crawl.

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I'm just not doing that.