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re: Barry Larkin says no one associated with PEDs will be elected to HOF
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:41 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:41 pm to TigerintheNO
When I see people campaigning to kick guys like Mantle and Arron out of the Hall for their use of amphetemines (also illegal drugs), then I'll take them seriously.
But PEDs were not only "legal" in a baseball sense, they were actively encouraged. But we still haven't gotten over our phony moral outrage. Part of that is glorification of the past, and part of that is our inability to talk honestly about drugs in any context, much less sports.
What will eventually happen is someone elected to the Hall will then cop to PED use, and the barrier will slowly erode. But the idea that the best hitter and pitcher of the past half century are both eligible but not in the Hall is absurd (Clemens and Bonds). We are reaching a point where the players left out of the Hall are far superior to those getting elected. Also, many people are being kept out on rumor and innuendo.
Make an era adjustment for the offensive context, and then move on.
But PEDs were not only "legal" in a baseball sense, they were actively encouraged. But we still haven't gotten over our phony moral outrage. Part of that is glorification of the past, and part of that is our inability to talk honestly about drugs in any context, much less sports.
What will eventually happen is someone elected to the Hall will then cop to PED use, and the barrier will slowly erode. But the idea that the best hitter and pitcher of the past half century are both eligible but not in the Hall is absurd (Clemens and Bonds). We are reaching a point where the players left out of the Hall are far superior to those getting elected. Also, many people are being kept out on rumor and innuendo.
Make an era adjustment for the offensive context, and then move on.
Posted on 7/24/13 at 3:12 pm to Baloo
Whatever. Larkin was using that shite, too.
Dude's career high in homers is 20, and then all of the sudden he mashes 33 after his MVP season in '95, only to never hit more than 17 in a season after that? I'm sure that's a complete coincidence.
He's just as guilty as the rest of those guys.
Dude's career high in homers is 20, and then all of the sudden he mashes 33 after his MVP season in '95, only to never hit more than 17 in a season after that? I'm sure that's a complete coincidence.
He's just as guilty as the rest of those guys.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 7/24/13 at 3:31 pm to Baloo
quote:You could be more accurate and call it rule-following instead of using that buzz phrase used to portray those who would rather players not cheat as phony and morally outraged. The issue isn't whether or not baseball players who cheat are bad people; the issue is whether or not baseball players who cheat cheat. It's cheating. Move it aside and let's watch real players who don't cheat.
phony moral outrage
quote:Just like the idea of me standing on stilts and not being acknowledged as the tallest man on earth is absurd. (borrowed from Costas)
But the idea that the best hitter and pitcher of the past half century are both eligible but not in the Hall is absurd (Clemens and Bonds).
quote:Not the issue. If those who decide who gets in the Hall want to not vote for people because they cheated, then that's that. If those who decide who gets in the Hall want to not vote for people because they think they cheated, then that's that.
We are reaching a point where the players left out of the Hall are far superior to those getting elected.
Even the players who didn't cheat benefitted from the deals crafted by a players union who protected cheaters. This is their own doing, and the consequences will be that many of them won't go to the Hall of Fame. It makes perfect sense whether you want to pretend that it's phony moral outrage or not.
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