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Refinance question: HARP Loan?

Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43843 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:30 pm
Can anyone give me a break down of the HARP Loan program? Each bank I've gone to is pushing this? Is it in my best interest to do it or just a regular refinance? TIA.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65456 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:34 pm to
You owe more than the appraised value of your home?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43843 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:44 pm to
No, about $30,000 less.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65456 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:49 pm to
Then I have no idea how this would be beneficial to you or why the banks are pushing it. I thought it was only for people upside down on their loan.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 3:34 pm to
if you are not upside down then you dont need a Harp loan.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

if you are not upside down then you dont need a Harp loan.


This. And you don't want to do it. It's an absolute pain in the rear for the borrower and bank.

No idea why anyone would suggest this when you're not underwater.
Posted by j4lsu
Pineville
Member since Aug 2006
3152 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:06 pm to
what about if you are upside down? how does it work? in general terms?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 4:17 pm to
You would either approach a participating lender or you could go directly through HARP, who would find a local lender for you. IIRC, it works similarly to a private refi but with a lot more documentation.

This could hav changed however. I think HARP is on its 3rd iteration now so might be more streamlined.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

No, about $30,000 less.


I think the bank pushing harp disagrees
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43843 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

I think the bank pushing harp disagrees

Well, they're paperwork they emailed me says otherwise.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 7:25 am to
Fair enough, ask hawk what a harp refi nets broker vs conventional refi. Might be somebody trying to get paid
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43843 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Fair enough, ask hawk
I'm guessing that's a poster on here?

quote:

Might be somebody trying to get paid


That was my initial thought.

Thanks.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3246 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:43 am to
As a broker, HARP rates can be lower for the applicant. Also, your loan would have to have closed prior to a certain date (I forget) and it is different for a Fannie or Fredie HARP. The appraisal can be waived and documentation can be streamlined. So with some brokers HARP is easier. Also, don't go back through your current ender, they make too much money on it. Go through someone else if you are going to do a HARP. In fact, from my experience, the rate is always lower from another lender. The fees may be less, but if you have a HARP loan, you aren't refinancing in 5 years, so rate and reasonable fees matter more.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:22 am to
if they are pushing HARP its because your loan qualifes for Harp and might not require an appraisal. anytime i can do a loan without an appraisal that makes me happy. Harp loans do tend to pay better for brokers, but you bank is not a broker so i dont see that coming into play..what type of terms are they offering you? interest rate/closing cost ?
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