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Forza's Use of the Cloud in Better Detail - Kotaku

Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:01 pm
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:01 pm
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We started talking about Xbox One and some of the new online requirements it has. Stuff like the check-in every 24 hours. I said that Microsoft really needed to explain what the benefits are for some of this stuff. They talk vaguely about using cloud computing, for example, but what do we really get out of it? Maybe they should show some next-gen games with the cloud computing turned on and off, I suggested.

Greenwalt had a surprising but refreshing reaction. He said it was on the game creators to explain this stuff to gamers. It was on them, he said, to show people the possibilities, something Turn 10 also tried to do when it integrated Kinect into the Forza series on the Xbox 360. He started talking to me about Drivatar, which he'd been talking about on stage at the Xbox press briefing earlier in the day.


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Drivatar uses the cloud to figure out how you drive and to then represent you n races in other people's games. It does the same for them, bringing virtual versions of other people into your copy of the game as your opponents.


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The first time you put the game in, it'll reach out to the cloud and pull down data from other people's Drivatars. Immediately, you'll have opponents in the game who are driving in the style of real people. These Drivatars are imbued with the driving personality and tendencies of real people, Greenwalt told me. So if the person tended to take turns a certain way, pass in certain ways, drive off the road a lot... that'll be evident in the virtual version of them against which you compete.

When you play the game, if you're connected, your own driving data will be uploaded to the cloud. It'll happen pretty much after every race. But if you play offline—and, remember, you can do that for almost 24 hours—the game will collect your driving data, let you play against the Drivatars it already snatched but then do a new data exchange whenever you re-connect.

Players may be able to select difficulty levels, weeding out tougher or worse opponent Drivatars, if they wish.

The actual data going back and forth from the Xbox One to the cloud isn't that complex, he told me. What's complex is the work the computers connected in the cloud will do to crunch players' driving tendencies. Doing that all outside of the Xbox One frees the console from having to use any muscle figuring it out. Eventually, he said, the cloud computing system will begin to discard older data that used to inform a player's Drivatar. That's so that the Drivatar more accurately represents how the player's driving skills have improved or deteriorated.


I personally can't wait to see what comes with this cloud computing
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:06 pm to
Really cool from a technology standpoint. But I don't get what is fun about this? Why do you want to play a fake version of your friends?
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:07 pm to
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Really cool from a technology standpoint. But I don't get what is fun about this? Why do you want to play a fake version of your friends?
As opposed to playing against robotic AI? AI informed by human tendencies sounds really cool.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:08 pm to
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Really cool from a technology standpoint. But I don't get what is fun about this? Why do you want to play a fake version of your friends?


It is more for when you can't play with your friends I am guessing.

I think this an overly simple use of the cloud computing but gets the example across of what you can do.

I can't wait to see what they do with this system in other games.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:09 pm to
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UltimateHog


Yes it must be so difficult to plug an ethernet cable into your console

Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69705 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:11 pm to
Mine is always hard wired, you're an idiot if you game over wifi.

Why would I want a system no one is buying?

I like to play with my friends, only a few were still on Xbox, their reactions tonight were priceless as they started kissing Sony's arse and preordered the PS4.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9425 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:13 pm to
Don't get me wrong I'm an Xbox guy. But this isn't much to me.

The Trials arcade game currently does the same thing with racing a "ghost" of your friends.

Hell even Mario Kart 64 let you race ghost haha
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:15 pm to
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Why would I want a system no one is buying?


All of my friends are buying an xbox one....

None of them had a reaction similar to yours.

What is soo much better about the PS4?
Posted by BTHog
Member since Jul 2012
8335 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:29 pm to
Your friends are poor.

My friends and I will buy both systems.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80733 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:30 pm to
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The Trials arcade game currently does the same thing with racing a "ghost" of your friends.



Not anywhere near the same thing.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80733 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:31 pm to
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All of my friends are buying an xbox one....

None of them had a reaction similar to yours.

What is soo much better about the PS4?



But no DRM... and $100 !!!!
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:32 pm to
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But no DRM... and $100 !!!!


Aren't these the same fan boys who paid extra for the PS3 over the 360?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80733 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:33 pm to
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Aren't these the same fan boys who paid extra for the PS3 over the 360?



And crowed about FREE online play, but apparently FREE online play is irrelevant and doesn't matter now that it is going away.

God... How many PS3 fanboys said they would never buy a console that made them pay to play online.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:34 pm to
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And crowed about FREE online play, but apparently FREE online play is irrelevant and doesn't matter now that it is going away.

I don't think anyone has even said that. On other forums I read, people are complaining. Just going to have to suck it up, sadly, if you want to play online.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 11:35 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:36 pm to
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All of my friends are buying an xbox one....

None of them had a reaction similar to yours.


Same.

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What is soo much better about the PS4?


Just like voting for Obama, its so fun to ride the tide of what everyone else is saying is cool.
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