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Report: Bosch tried to shake down players, MLB comes to the rescue
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:49 pm
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The Daily News reported Wednesday that baseball was concerned Bosch might turn to players for financial help if MLB didn’t lock him into an agreement to testify.
“They were afraid someone else would pay him,” said the source. “Bosch is the only guy that can provide them with what they need.”
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 9:51 pm
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:16 am to swamie
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:06 am to swamie
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swamie
Damn. You truly refuse to admit that your boy did wrong, huh?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:36 am to Moustache
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Damn. You truly refuse to admit that your boy did wrong, huh?
My problem with the situation isn't so much with Braun as it is with the way MLB is handling it.
Last year at this time, half this board was still holding their pitch forks with the way Goodell was handling the bounty case. Now, because nobody likes A Rod or has any much stake in Braun outside of fantasy baseball, people are willing to roll over for Selig where he has less or as little probable cause as Goodell did.
This case is being built on a shady piece of notebook paper and the cooperation of a guy who is getting rode hard into ratting with threats of litigation. One who is probably bought.
If I wanted to focus more on Braun, I'd argue more to the point that calling his acquittal of PED use a technicality is short sighted when it was MLB who mishandled everything to the point where there should be doubt on their end, not Braun's.
Regardless of MLB's ineptness in executing their own strict drug testing procedures or ability to keep anything under those statutes in the player agreement remotely confidential, fans of pro sports should care more about the methods they are using to persecute cheaters.
ETA: Plus, this beats another NBA comparison thread.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:38 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:37 am to swamie
The evidence goes way beyond " a shady piece of notebook paper". MLB has phone records, copies of emails, no doubt some proof of payment in some form or another as well.Is Bosch one of the good guys? No, but then neither are the cheaters who are being "persecuted". Unfortunately, when it comes to drugs of any sort, but specifically those that are illegal in any venue, none of the "players" are good guys. In Braun's case, MLB was not inept. One guy messed up one time. What other instances of said ineptness are you referencing?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:47 am to swamie
Nevermind. Read the whole post.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:59 am to Keltic Tiger
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The evidence goes way beyond " a shady piece of notebook paper". MLB has phone records, copies of emails, no doubt some proof of payment in some form or another as well.
They asked for a subpoena of phone and Fed Ex records. Do they have this in hand yet and has there been any evidence derived from them yet? And no doubt proof of payment? I guess if you want to call Braun -----> $$$ slam dunk proof.
You may be right, but I haven't seen any proof of this evidence yet, so this all sounds like assumptions.
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Is Bosch one of the good guys? No, but then neither are the cheaters who are being "persecuted".
alleged cheaters through this process to date.
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In Braun's case, MLB was not inept. One guy messed up one time. What other instances of said ineptness are you referencing?
How many times do you have to mess up to be considered inept? Mishandling someone's drug test isn't a "whoops, my bad" occurrence and neither was the way their office handled the confidentiality of the failed test.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:08 am to swamie
poor Braun
ruined the life of some nobody making probably 40k a year to make himself seem like he poor innocent hero and now he is being persecuted again!
ruined the life of some nobody making probably 40k a year to make himself seem like he poor innocent hero and now he is being persecuted again!
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:14 am to swamie
Who gives a frick? Your boy cheated and so do many others.
Of course the guy who sold illegal drugs to cheaters is one of questionable character.
If a child porn ring is busted because the head guy is caught and gives the names of all of his customers with records of their involvement, I have no issue with him being a slimy criminal frick while helping us get all the other pervs out of society.
Braun is a fraud and a technicality saved his loser arse! Those things are opened under cameras. No seals were tampered with, it was sent a day late. Big whoop! They are cheaters who deserve to lose their contracts.
Of course the guy who sold illegal drugs to cheaters is one of questionable character.
If a child porn ring is busted because the head guy is caught and gives the names of all of his customers with records of their involvement, I have no issue with him being a slimy criminal frick while helping us get all the other pervs out of society.
Braun is a fraud and a technicality saved his loser arse! Those things are opened under cameras. No seals were tampered with, it was sent a day late. Big whoop! They are cheaters who deserve to lose their contracts.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:16 am to Maximus
Poor MLB
threw a good arbitrator under the bus with over 10 years of service because he wouldn't be a team player and now they're buying testimony so they won't look bad again!
threw a good arbitrator under the bus with over 10 years of service because he wouldn't be a team player and now they're buying testimony so they won't look bad again!
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:21 am to swamie
frick Bug Selig. Why is he trying to hurt his home team.
ETA: My late Grandfather bought numerous cars from their family dealership in Milwaukee back in the day and always said he seemed like a decent man the times he met him, what an a-hole he has become.
ETA: My late Grandfather bought numerous cars from their family dealership in Milwaukee back in the day and always said he seemed like a decent man the times he met him, what an a-hole he has become.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:33 am to goldenbadger08
Let's forget Braun and the Brewers for a second. The NFL and MLB are using very weak circumstantial evidence to punish players and as I said before, the MLB's evidence is even shakier than the NFL's.
Now add to the case that the MLB is buying testimony from the key witness and I don't see how there's not more outrage.
Now add to the case that the MLB is buying testimony from the key witness and I don't see how there's not more outrage.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 10:35 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:31 pm to swamie
Ok, but it's pretty simple for these guys to STOP trying to go to these guys to get stronger with root extract or any other bullshite they take.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:42 pm to swamie
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Now add to the case that the MLB is buying testimony from the key witness and I don't see how there's not more outrage.
Buying testimony isn't necessarily a problem if the testimony is truthful and can be corroborated.
Of course, this begs the question of why, if this guy has all of the keys to the locked doors, A-Rod, Braun and/or anybody else didn't slide this guy a cool million, especially seeing as how many multiples of that are at risk for them.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 4:14 pm to Walking the Earth
I think it speaks to the character of the accused to tell someone who's for sale to go frick themselves. It's not like we didnt have character concerns already with Bosch, but I have no idea how anyone can consider his testimony credible now we know he was squeezed.
I'm a little shocked anyone would propose buying him off too.
I'm a little shocked anyone would propose buying him off too.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 4:29 pm to swamie
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I'm a little shocked anyone would propose buying him off too.
That's how the game is played on Planet Earth. Sadly, we don't live in a Disney movie.
If they're guilty of the accusations and want to keep that association hidden, either killing him or buying him off are pretty much your only two options.
Obviously, nobody is proposing for innocent people to pay off some guy making up lies about them.
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I think it speaks to the character of the accused to tell someone who's for sale to go frick themselves
If innocent, I completely agree. If guilty, it speaks more to just how stupid some of these people are.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:07 pm to swamie
Denial is not a good look on you swamie
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