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Re: Digital Currency; Apple files "imoney" patent

Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:27 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:27 am
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Who needs money when you can have iMoney?

Apple has applied for a patent on a combined virtual currency and digital wallet technology that would allow you to store money in the cloud, make payments with your iPhone, and — just maybe — communicate with point-of-sale terminals via NFC.

Not to mention making money by viewing ads.

The patent application, published today by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Organization, details how iPhone users could walk into a store, pay for goods with their phone, and walk out with their merchandise. All of this is possible today, of course, but Apple’s patent application mentions — although does not require — NFC, something that Apple has long resisted adding to the iPhone. NFC facilitates digital wallets and cashless purchasing by wirelessly transmitting payment credentials and pricing information.


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Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65457 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:50 am to
Now we're talking. This could grow legs. Would still be regulated though. Unless it's some type of deal like Microsoft Points.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82756 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:11 pm to
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still be regulated though


Apple is already in bed with the PRISM program.
They will do whatever the state tells them.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:17 pm to
I think this is more a form of digital banking than digital currency.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135050 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:31 pm to
I'm too lazy to go back and link my post, but in one of my replies to wiki when he asked what would it take for the "digital money haters" to get on board with a digital currency, I wrote it might work if a google or Amazon or Apple provided a currency and they supported it with their technology.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1736 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:36 pm to
A corporatacy.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:59 pm to
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I think this is more a form of digital banking than digital currency.


I agree. It sounds more like rewards points more than anything (aside from the digital wallet part).

I'd be on board with it though. It's a good idea, especially the bit about allowing customers to earn them by doing things like watching ads.

It's also a good example what a cluster the patent system is that Apple was able to get a patent for something that isn't really a new idea.

This thread could go in a lot of directions
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135050 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:07 pm to
You ignorant luddites just don't understand technology.

iMoney is in its infancy, not even having a patent granted yet by the statists. It will take time to develop and it will scare the IMF, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve.

There is NOTHING those statists can do to stop iMoney!

One day iMoney will rule the world!!!

Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:22 pm to
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It's also a good example what a cluster the patent system is that Apple was able to get a patent for something that isn't really a new idea.


That is the most interesting part of the announcement. Bitcoin is already capable of doing nearly everything they described.

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users could walk into a store, pay for goods with their phone, and walk out with their merchandise


already being done with bitcoin

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NFC


possible with bitcoin as well

quote:

store money in the cloud


lol ok, poor choice of wording but I think I get the gist of what they are saying, and again, bitcoin does this




so, really, all this does is point out that out patent system is retarded if one is granted for this
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:34 pm to
Have more faith in Apple than I do in Suckoni Mycocki, just saying
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135050 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

users could walk into a store, pay for goods with their phone, and walk out with their merchandise



already being done with bitcoin

Already being done with U.S. dollars.

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NFC



possible with bitcoin as well

Already being done with U.S. dollars.

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store money in the cloud



lol ok, poor choice of wording but I think I get the gist of what they are saying, and again, bitcoin does this


U.S. dollars already doing this.

This just proves a convoluted and impossible to comprehend fake digital currency is just retarded.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:13 pm to
How would this be different than the Google wallet flop?

Other than the fact it would work on more than just Sprint/Nextel?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:39 pm to
Google Wallet is a flop?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:45 pm to
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How would this be different than the Google wallet flop?



I think the difference here will be perception.

People actually buy stuff from Apple, but Google is the company that gives away "free" stuff for watching ads.

I think what make it work is that (presumably) it will be seamlessly integrated into iTunes and the AppStore and you won't have to think about how to use it. Then people will slowly start using it with non-Apple merchants after (if?) they see that it works in the Apple ecosystem.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:02 pm to
People buy a shite load from Google.. This isnt 2009 anymore.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174351 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:26 pm to
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will be seamlessly integrated into iTunes and the AppStore

Great

Just what I want to do with my money. Integrate it into shitty itunes software.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:43 pm to
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People buy a shite load from Google.. This isnt 2009 anymore.


Compared to Apple?

ETA: and for the record, I'm not trying to start one of those goofy assed fights about which platform/company/software is better. I'm trying to point out why Apple might possibly have more success than google.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:59 pm to
Apple is making about 5 million per day to Google's 1 million per day. (There are also not competing app stores on iOS that I know of)

Dont understand how a comparison of the two can be used here to say its a "flop".

Google is more recently diving into media sales too.

Those are only app store and play store totals. I think this whole thing is about physical instore sales. In that sense I guess you can say its a flop but dont see how buying it through Apple changes that.

Which brings back the question:

quote:

How would this be different than the Google wallet flop?
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65457 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:29 pm to
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You ignorant luddites just don't understand technology.

iMoney is in its infancy, not even having a patent granted yet by the statists. It will take time to develop and it will scare the IMF, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve.

There is NOTHING those statists can do to stop iMoney!

One day iMoney will rule the world!!!




Wiki, this is Apple. Be happy that some form of digital currency (if that is indeed what this is) has piqued our interest. Like we've said all along, all we want is a major player in the game.
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