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Was Johnathan Gray taking adderal to enhance his performance?
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:39 pm
Why does MLB consider adderall a performance enhancing drug? This is ridiculous in my opinion. It's not a performance enhancer. Can anybody fill me in. I'm just curious because I have medical records that would allow me to get this medication if I needed it, but haven't taken Ritalin since college. Thanks!
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:40 pm to LSUstephen17
They test for adderall for the same reason they test for weed... it's illegal (if not prescribed) and is commonly abused.
eta. but I'd argue it's a performance enhancer although I doubt he took it for baseball. Most likely to study.
eta. but I'd argue it's a performance enhancer although I doubt he took it for baseball. Most likely to study.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:40 pm to LSUstephen17
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It's not a performance enhancer
It enhances your focus which enhances performance. Hence, performance enhancing.
Is that really that complicated?
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:42 pm to LSUstephen17
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It's not a performance enhancer.
Oh Really.
quote:
Used for short periods, Adderall counteracts ADHD and narcolepsy by triggering the release of adrenaline, increasing the heart rate and the flow of blood to the muscles. As a result of this, the use of Adderall can cause feelings of energy and invigoration, similar to the high often experienced after exercise. Users frequently report improvements in focus and concentration, which has led to Adderall being used illegally as a study aid, enabling students to concentrate for longer periods. It has also been reportedly used by athletes to improve sports performance, with a number of sporting bodies taking steps to limit its use strictly to athletes with a legitimate diagnosis of ADHD. Adderall can also create feelings of euphoria, which has led to it becoming popular as a recreational drug. Once this initial effect has worn off, Adderall users can feel tired, depressed and irritable, although this may be countered by reducing usage of the drug slowly, rather than stopping suddenly.
It seems to me that whole concentration and focus thing could be huge for a pitcher.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:43 pm to LSUstephen17
quote:Yes.
Was Johnathan Gray taking adderal to enhance his performance?
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:45 pm to LSUstephen17
Jonathan Gray takes Adderall to help not enhance his performance.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:45 pm to LSUstephen17
If you aren't afflicted with ADD or ADHD it gives you the sense of extra energy. It won't add five mph to your fastball but it could potentially allow you to throw 8 innings instead of 7.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:48 pm to LSUstephen17
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This is ridiculous in my opinion. It's not a performance enhancer.
As I learned earlier today, it's fricking speed. If an actual diagnosis of ADHD doesn't exist then it is most likely abuse because people use them for the adrenaline rush and extra boost. I imagine a dude throwing 98 in the 8th could be a prime suspect for something like this.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:53 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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Most likely to study.
doubtful if he failed last week
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:53 pm to Tigerdew
Adderal is popped like skittles at LSU are we seriously crucifying this guy over adderal?
If Nola was taking Adderal no one would say anything.
If Nola was taking Adderal no one would say anything.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:53 pm to LSU316
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It seems to me that whole concentration and focus thing could be huge for a pitcher.
There is a rumor that Doc Ellis supposedly pitched an MLB game while on LSD. I find that hard to believe, though.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:54 pm to TigerBait1127
Didn't realize it was a test from last week. I thought it was from a little while ago but just came to light.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:55 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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Adderal is popped like skittles at LSU are we seriously crucifying this guy over adderal?
If Nola was taking Adderal no one would say anything.
I'm fairly certain LSU tests more often than most no?
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:55 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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Didn't realize it was a test from last week. I thought it was from a little while ago but just came to light.
I have no idea
Edit: looked it up, the test was over the weekend. I doubt he was taking classes and it is gone after 48-72 hours
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:00 pm to Flame Salamander
Ultimately mechanics determines whether or not a pitcher is effective. If he took adderall while learning mechanics he's already accomplished what he's set out to do. If he's using to stretch a few innings, which is what I'm guessing he's doing, his muscles and tendons are still breaking down at the same rate. Even though we all know you only realistically need one good contract to retire from, don't expect this kid to be a hall of famer.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:03 pm to LSURussian
Posted in the Cleveland Plain Dealer in August 2012
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- For those with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Adderall can be a godsend. The stimulant drug can turn someone who was a bundle of unfocused and impulsive energy into a calmer, more attentive version of themselves.
For an athlete, Adderall can provide an improvement in reaction times and concentration and a decrease in fatigue that gives an edge on the playing field.
"If you think about it, it's an illegal edge," said Max Wiznitzer, a neurologist at UH-Case Medical Center. "Why does the cycling community ban (EPO)? Because it increases your hemoglobin concentration and gives you an unnatural edge. Is it fair to the other people around you if you have that edge?"
The sports world says it's not fair. Adderall is on the list of banned substances in the NCAA and NFL -- unless the athlete alerts the league to a valid prescription for the medication. Wednesday, reports surfaced that Browns cornerback Joe Haden has tested positive for the drug and faces a four-game suspension by the NFL.
The National Institute of Mental Health estimates about 4.4 percent of adults suffer from ADHD.
Adderall is classified as a stimulant, listed alongside caffeine and cocaine in the NCAA's list of banned substances. It has become an increasing problem in the sporting world, with a list of athletes testing positive for the drug growing by the week. Just this week, NASCAR driver A.J. Allmendinger admitted taking the drug to help boost his energy. Others who reportedly have recently tested positive include New York Giants safety Tyler Sash, Pittsburgh tight end Weslye Saunders, Green Bay Packers defensive end Mike Neal and Giants running back Andre Brown.
Wednesday, Haden was added to that list.
"In a sports setting, it parlays into an increased ability to work out harder; or if they're going through testing to perform testing better; if they're studying a playbook to memorize the playbook," said Rick Figler, a Cleveland Clinic sports medicine physician. "It's absolutely a performance-enhancing agent."
Adderall generally is known to be abused by teenagers and college students who seek an edge in concentration and focus when studying, and has been deemed addictive because of its performance-enhancing qualities.
"So if an athlete were to use it and said, 'My workout went really, really well,' he'd probably want to use it again," Figler said. "It's similar to if you miss your morning cup of coffee you may not feel on your game."

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- For those with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Adderall can be a godsend. The stimulant drug can turn someone who was a bundle of unfocused and impulsive energy into a calmer, more attentive version of themselves.
For an athlete, Adderall can provide an improvement in reaction times and concentration and a decrease in fatigue that gives an edge on the playing field.
"If you think about it, it's an illegal edge," said Max Wiznitzer, a neurologist at UH-Case Medical Center. "Why does the cycling community ban (EPO)? Because it increases your hemoglobin concentration and gives you an unnatural edge. Is it fair to the other people around you if you have that edge?"
The sports world says it's not fair. Adderall is on the list of banned substances in the NCAA and NFL -- unless the athlete alerts the league to a valid prescription for the medication. Wednesday, reports surfaced that Browns cornerback Joe Haden has tested positive for the drug and faces a four-game suspension by the NFL.
The National Institute of Mental Health estimates about 4.4 percent of adults suffer from ADHD.
Adderall is classified as a stimulant, listed alongside caffeine and cocaine in the NCAA's list of banned substances. It has become an increasing problem in the sporting world, with a list of athletes testing positive for the drug growing by the week. Just this week, NASCAR driver A.J. Allmendinger admitted taking the drug to help boost his energy. Others who reportedly have recently tested positive include New York Giants safety Tyler Sash, Pittsburgh tight end Weslye Saunders, Green Bay Packers defensive end Mike Neal and Giants running back Andre Brown.
Wednesday, Haden was added to that list.
"In a sports setting, it parlays into an increased ability to work out harder; or if they're going through testing to perform testing better; if they're studying a playbook to memorize the playbook," said Rick Figler, a Cleveland Clinic sports medicine physician. "It's absolutely a performance-enhancing agent."
Adderall generally is known to be abused by teenagers and college students who seek an edge in concentration and focus when studying, and has been deemed addictive because of its performance-enhancing qualities.
"So if an athlete were to use it and said, 'My workout went really, really well,' he'd probably want to use it again," Figler said. "It's similar to if you miss your morning cup of coffee you may not feel on your game."
Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:06 pm to tenderfoot tigah
quote:
Adderal is popped like skittles at LSU are we seriously crucifying this guy over adderal?
its popped like skittles on all college campuses. The point is if you are an athlete (who are the ones tested), you don't fricking do it right before the biggest game of your life
Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:08 pm to Kajuncook
The NCAA needs to show up Thursday night and surprise this cat.
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