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Is Phish a Great Band?- grantland article
Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:12 pm
phish grantland article
my favorite part of the article
nice article, I don't listen to phish anymore, but I consider them a great band.
my favorite part of the article
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Let's say it's 50 years in the future, and you're trying to figure out how and why pop music has arrived at its present permutation. Let's also say that recorded music still exists, but no longer as a product that artists attempt to sell. Like other forms of devalued currency, recordings have flooded the market to the point of virtual worthlessness. But music fans are still willing to pay to hear a version of a song that doesn't exist yet, and will only ever exist once. Because of this economic development, bands spend a lot less time making albums and devote the majority of their energy to honing their live shows. Over time, people gradually stop talking about fixed versions of songs and begin evaluating bands on their ability to perform and refresh their body of work. This creates a new paradigm for how we talk about music — pop historians start rating the Dead over the Beatles as the best rock band ever. Music is perceived less like film and more like theater or sports — as a venue for live events that lose their essential appeal if they're not viewed in the moment.
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I obviously don't know for certain if this scenario will happen, but I won't be surprised if it does. As a person who's long been obsessed with albums, I hope they never go away. But I can't make a practical financial argument for most bands to continue making them, other than as an advertisement for the live show. While recorded music isn't exactly on the verge of extinction yet, it has been perpetually teetering on the precipice of insolvency since the turn of the century. But live music endures — it can't be mass-produced, diluted, or "shared" in a digital realm. If artists no longer have the means to make records, the concert stage will become their primary canvas.
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If this is how things play out, our theoretical rock critic in the year 2063 will look back at the late '90s as a turning point — record sales peaked, Napster made file-sharing accessible to millions, and a band called Phish presented an alternative model in which memorable live experiences mean at least as much as iconic songs, and high-grossing tours measure an artist's reach as well as chart-topping albums do. This is how Phish is "good." It could soon be how all music is good.
nice article, I don't listen to phish anymore, but I consider them a great band.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:22 pm to rutiger
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Is Phish a Great Band?
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I consider them a great band.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:59 pm to rutiger
one hundred and seventy-six pages
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:10 pm to rutiger
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record sales peaked, Napster made file-sharing accessible to millions, and a band called Phish presented an alternative model in which memorable live experiences mean at least as much as iconic songs, and high-grossing tours measure an artist's reach as well as chart-topping albums do.
then ten years later another model was formed birthing a new genre and bringing a new found headiness to the universe
nb4TreyAnastasio
Posted on 6/5/13 at 1:52 am to Burt Reynolds
Dude why you do always have to Bisco up all the Phish threads
No one cares about 3rd tier jam bands
This is a 1st tier thread
No one cares about 3rd tier jam bands
This is a 1st tier thread
Posted on 6/5/13 at 6:35 am to danman6336
Not to mention how many people do you think will actually know who that is? The only way I know what a musician looks like is if I have seen them numerous times or they are a legend and I have read a bunch about them in cyberspace
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:05 am to danman6336
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why you do always
I think you're ODing on molly again
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This is a 1st tier thread
didn't know we were talking about the Grateful Dead
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:09 am to massiveattack
Phish is the most important band of the '90s
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:11 am to danman6336
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This is a 1st tier thread
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:15 am to Burt Reynolds
You are very volatile and combative in every thread you post in. Just settle down and let other people enjoy the music they want to. This is largely in response to threads other than this one.
ETA: Great Band
ETA: Great Band
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 8:16 am
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:16 am to CaptainPanic
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Phish is not a 1st tier band. But yes they are a great band
Here come the butthurt WSP fans.
Phish has sold out Madison Square Garden, the most famous arena in the world, a whopping 30 times- including 7 NYE shows.
Bonnaroo and other modern festivals got their blueprints from Phish festivals.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:18 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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You are very volatile and combative in every thread you post in. Just settle down and let other people enjoy the music they want to.
pot meet kettle
eta: legendary band
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:21 am to HeadyBrosevelt
I love Phish
but not 1st Tier. If you mean currently playing I suppose you could consider them 1st Tier. I wouldn't put Phish at the same level as ABB or the Dead by any means.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:22 am to Burt Reynolds
Phil Lesh and Bob Weir would say that Phish is "tier one." So would Jer Bear.
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