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Posted by oldcharlie8
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:30 am to
patroclis was NOT achilles' cousin. he was actually his lover. back then....christianity hadn't put the "gay" rules into effect yet.

i've read alot about achilles in the past.

Posted by lsufan9193969700
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:34 am to
Why are you telling this to me?
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 9:46 am to
quote:

patroclis was NOT achilles' cousin. he was actually his lover. back then....christianity hadn't put the "gay" rules into effect yet. i've read alot about achilles in the past.


I think it has already been established that the movie did not stick to the books/mythology. However, this thread is about the movie...and in the movie, Patroclus is Achilles' cousin.

And as far as Achilles and Patroclus being lovers, Homer does not necessarily portray them as such. Many other writers viewed their relationship as pederastic, but this wasn't uncommon in Ancient Greece.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/25/13 at 10:15 am to
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patroclis was NOT achilles' cousin.
His mother was thought to be Achilles' half sister, so he was actually his uncle.
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christianity hadn't put the "gay" rules into effect yet.
Contrary to modern gay propaganda, the only form of "gayness" tolerated by the Greeks was the ritual man/boy love in which the seed of the mentor was "planted" in the pupil, thereby completing his ascent to manhood and enabling the pupil to be verile.

The greek word for the bitch translates to "wide arse" and the word for the butch translates to "hairy arse." Full-on homosexuality was not looked upon highly. Male companionship (friendship) was seen as more significant because women were not equal in society. Ergo, epic buddy stories have always been common, and throughout all cultures, from Gilgamesh and Enkidu to Riggs and Murtaw.

The activists are always trying to pull this shite with Alexander, Atilla and others. They even tried it with Napoleon, but he was such a famous horndog that they were forced to give it up.

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