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Good article on "for hardcore gamers" vs "all in one entertainment"

Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:07 pm
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It’s not hard to figure out what the gaming-first crowd wants: a super-powered box that connects to the TV, has a handheld controller and has a huge library of games from the biggest-budget epics to the breakout indie hits. They don’t want a PC because they don’t want to mess with settings and deal with crashes; they want a standard platform that Just Works. It can do other things, sure, but games are the meat and everything else is somewhere between the gravy and the pepper shaker.

Hey, that sounds like an awesome product! Tuned precisely to our very needs. Say, do you know how many companies — in the entire world — currently offer such a product?

Two.

Nintendo bailed the hell out of that business in 2006 when it shipped the Wii. Nintendo had been graphically competitive, if not superior, up until then. But it saw the writing on the wall and opted out of the more-power arms race. So it’s down to just Microsoft and Sony. And as we are all now aware, Microsoft’s strategy has shifted from gaming to everything. It won’t be happy until you’re doing everything in the living room through your Xbox One, and if that means it has to take steps that impact its performance as a pure gaming machine, well, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

So I rescind that comment. It’s not two corporations currently creating high-end game boxes for gaming gamers. It’s one.

How’s that working out for Sony?



Oh, right. It can’t seem to figure out a way to make any money off the PlayStation business. This chart is from a 2012 speech by game developer Ben Cousins titled “When the Consoles Die, What Comes Next?” To bring it up to speed, Sony only made about $17.2 million in operating income on the PlayStation business off revenues of $7.2 billion, a 94 percent drop from the last year’s income.

So as a general matter, Sony’s PlayStation business is not making money. And yet they’re doing everything hardcore gamers want. PlayStation 3 is a graphical powerhouse. They’re giving online gaming away for free, instead of charging 60 bucks a year like Microsoft does. They pour money into indie developers and generate critically acclaimed arthouse hits like Journey. Microsoft refuses to take risks with its software, releasing endless iterations of Halo and Forza while Sony releases out-of-the-box concepts like Heavy Rain and The Last of Us.

Surely Microsoft’s Xbox business is doing even worse, right?



Hm. Well, although Cousins points out that the division of the company that contains Xbox has, over its lifetime, lost a bunch of money, we can see a clear upward trend in recent years. And again, to bring this up to date, the Entertainment and Devices Division had an operating income of $342 million in the last quarter. Since other products (like Skype and Surface, e.g.) are lumped into that division, I can’t say whether the Xbox 360 in particular is turning a profit. But it would seem as if Microsoft is at least on the way to turning it around.

If it’s possible to create a superpowered game box, why hasn’t anyone been able to do it successfully for almost a decade? Why did Nintendo quit, why is Sony hemorrhaging cash and why is Microsoft putting all of its effort into pitching Xbox One as a TV-enhancement device? Ben Cousins thinks he’s figured it out: because the console is dead, a sentiment with which I would strongly agree.


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Having games as just one part of a broad entertainment device with multiple, diverse revenue streams might not just be Microsoft’s (and Apple’s and Google’s) preferred outcome. It might be the only way that high-end game machines survive at all.


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Being a console just for gamers is a dying business model unless you are very niche like Nintendo and even that isn't working out so well for the Wii U right now. Time will tell if more games changes that for them.

The point is if you are a "just for gamers" console that shares the majority of its titles with other platforms your days may be numbered. MS knows this and this is why they have sacrificed some things to bring an all in one device to market.
Posted by LewDawg
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:09 pm to
Max rustle

ETA: I vote that all future XBox One threads be moved to the M/TV Board.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 2:12 pm
Posted by hg
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:12 pm to
All your rustle are belong to us.
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:13 pm to
Jimmies are all rustled up in my crack and booty hole.
Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:13 pm to
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ETA: I vote that all future XBox One threads be moved to the M/TV Board.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:15 pm to
console gamers don't want a PC so what do we do? make consoles more like PCs
Posted by dizerik
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:15 pm to
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I vote that all future XBox One threads be moved to the M/TV Board.


I don't like the circle jerk but that's funny.
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:17 pm to
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console gamers don't want a PC so what do we do? make consoles more like really low-end PCs
FIFY
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:17 pm to
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Max rustle
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:20 pm to
should it be "master race" vs "wannabe master race" now?
Posted by Devious
Elitist
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:22 pm to
You call them wannabe master race, all they hear is master race.
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:22 pm to
oh hell yeah, gotta give the peasants props though. at least they tried
Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:23 pm to
Interesting chart.

So what has happened after 2011?

Also, besides the small loss from time between mid 2010 to 2011. Sony is on an upward trend as well. Something to also point out.

Basically, am I supposed to be worried about Sony and the PS4 being a gamer focused console based on chart that only reads to 2011?

I'm not going to make assumptions on why they left out a two year period on a very recent article, but why wouldn't they unless it didn't help their point.


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Being a console just for gamers is a dying business model unless you are very niche like Nintendo and even that isn't working out so well for the Wii U right now.


Being a niche, console for "gamers" (which it isn't), is not the reason the Wii U is doing poorly. That is fairly obvious.

This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:23 pm to
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ETA: I vote that all future XBox One threads be moved to the M/TV Board.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:30 pm to
master race alpha



master race beta
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:32 pm to
If we're going that route I prefer masterbeta race
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:32 pm to
Did someone say master race?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:35 pm to
Will be on tonight. Was buying a new car last night. #Ma$terRaceprobs
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:38 pm to
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Did someone say master race?



You called ?
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