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re: Who would you trade between J Upton or Bryce for a top SP?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:25 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:25 pm to UltimateHog
Waino and Shelby are trash. You need pitching help
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:28 pm to The White Lobster
Troll elsewhere.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:01 pm to UltimateHog
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God, I own fantasy baseball.
Then why do you solicit the advice of this board so often?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:02 pm to mattz1122
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Then why do you solicit the advice of this board so often?
I was wondering this too. For someone who claims to know so much, he sure does rely on others a good bit.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:05 pm to mattz1122
I knew who I was trading before posting this, but why not see what others think?
The point of the board really, most people already have their mind made up but still want opinions or views.
The point of the board really, most people already have their mind made up but still want opinions or views.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:05 pm to swamie
Did anyone record the stats of the players on the day that he made the trade? I would love to see how the rest of their season played out starting on that day.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:08 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
I won so far, that's for damn sure.
Heyward went on the DL like 2 days later and just returned.
Bruce has been solid, but as has Marte.
Wainwright has a CG SHO and will have his 3rd win with me shortly with about a 1 ERA.
Heyward went on the DL like 2 days later and just returned.
Bruce has been solid, but as has Marte.
Wainwright has a CG SHO and will have his 3rd win with me shortly with about a 1 ERA.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:11 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
April 17th
Game logs on baseball reference tell the whole story
Game logs on baseball reference tell the whole story
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:14 pm to UltimateHog
Bruce is on a tear now. His last ten games have been terrific. You are going to lose a shite ton of hr and RBI in this trade. Hopefully, you play in a league where they use AVG.
Over the course of the year, this trade will not work out for you. The only exception would be numerous freak injuries. You need to look at the big picture over the whole season.
Over the course of the year, this trade will not work out for you. The only exception would be numerous freak injuries. You need to look at the big picture over the whole season.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:21 pm to UltimateHog
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No one would make that deal, Heyward has no value.
Fowler would be a good add though, 100 runs scored is looking likely.
God, I own fantasy baseball.
If you'd rather be considered a dumbass than a troll that's fine
I have no idea how many runs Fowler has now or if he'll get to 100, but I'd bet Heyward would have more runs the rest of the year. Not to mention more home runs, RBI, and steals. The rest of the year is what matters
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:24 pm to The White Lobster
I think he was banking on 25+ HR in that thread too. Since that post Fowler has 2 HR. Looks like he's gong to need to pick up the pace.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:27 pm to The White Lobster
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I have no idea how many runs Fowler has now or if he'll get to 100, but I'd bet Heyward would have more runs the rest of the year. Not to mention more home runs, RBI, and steals.
Highly, highly unlikely on all fronts.
Rockies offense will keep Fowler scoring all season long as it will lead the NL in most hitting categories like last year and it's a better lineup this year.
Gotta look at the whole package.
Since that trade I've stretched my lead in first to 12.5 games, guy I traded with is still in last. Love it.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:33 pm to UltimateHog
It's unlikely Heyward will have more home runs than Fowler the rest of the year?
I'm done
I'm done
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:50 pm to The White Lobster
Here are the players since the trade.
Dexter Fowler:
R 19
HR 2
RBI 9
SB 5
AVG .273
Starling Marte:
R 23
HR 4
RBI 9
SB 8
AVG .276
Adam Wainwright:
W 3
K 39
ERA 2.74
WHIP 1.02
Jay Bruce:
R 18
HR 6
RBI 24
SB 0
AVG .289
Jason Heyward:
R 3
HR 0
RBI 1
SB 0
AVG .172
There is no doubt you upgrading your pitching staff. Wainwright looks to be a top 10 pitcher or so. However, the price you paid is way too high still.
Despite the fact that Heyward has barely played at all, Bruce provided more RBI's, a higher batting average, and the same number of homers. Obviously, Marte and Fowler have a significant advantage in stolen bases and runs scored than just Bruce.
When Heyward returns to his normal, healthy self, the only category that your side will for sure be advantageous in is stolen bases. It is possible to score more runs and have a higher average, but I suspect those will be close (if and only if your less proven players continue to play above their heads). The loss you took in home runs and RBI's will be dramatic.
Dexter Fowler:
R 19
HR 2
RBI 9
SB 5
AVG .273
Starling Marte:
R 23
HR 4
RBI 9
SB 8
AVG .276
Adam Wainwright:
W 3
K 39
ERA 2.74
WHIP 1.02
Jay Bruce:
R 18
HR 6
RBI 24
SB 0
AVG .289
Jason Heyward:
R 3
HR 0
RBI 1
SB 0
AVG .172
There is no doubt you upgrading your pitching staff. Wainwright looks to be a top 10 pitcher or so. However, the price you paid is way too high still.
Despite the fact that Heyward has barely played at all, Bruce provided more RBI's, a higher batting average, and the same number of homers. Obviously, Marte and Fowler have a significant advantage in stolen bases and runs scored than just Bruce.
When Heyward returns to his normal, healthy self, the only category that your side will for sure be advantageous in is stolen bases. It is possible to score more runs and have a higher average, but I suspect those will be close (if and only if your less proven players continue to play above their heads). The loss you took in home runs and RBI's will be dramatic.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:54 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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When Heyward returns to his normal, healthy self, the only category that your side will for sure be advantageous in is stolen bases. It is possible to score more runs and have a higher average, but I suspect those will be close (if and only if your less proven players continue to play above their heads). The loss you took in home runs and RBI's will be dramatic.
That's just an assumption, Heyward was shite before getting hurt and looks to be in his 2011 .227 year form.
I have so much power and RBI in my lineup hence why I ditched the low avg high power hitter Bruce and kept higher average run scoring guys.
You don't want a team of all power and no speed or the opposite, have to mix and match it and between Harper/Upton/Gomez I have plenty of pop in the OF for RBI/HR.
Love the trade and won't look back, have came out on top thus far and will be fine going forward.
Wainwright with a another win tonight 1 run over 7.1 on 4 hits with 6 K's.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:00 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:01 am to UltimateHog
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low avg high power hitter Bruce
Bruce is a career .308 hitter in the minors. He hit .281 in 2010, .284 so far this year, and is a career .257 hitter in the majors. I think he has found some of the batting average and OBP he had in the minors.
I bet he will finish will the highest average, home run, and RBI total of all the players in the trade.
Heyward literally cannot play any worse. The gap is closing on you winning this trade. Like everyone has said, Wainwright is great, but you dramatically overpaid.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 12:04 am
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:15 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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and is a career .257 hitter in the majors. I think he has found some of the batting average and OBP he had in the minors.
Didn't he hit like .250 last year?
quote:
I bet he will finish will the highest average, home run, and RBI total of all the players in the trade.
RBI and HR probably, nothing to go on for Marte, and Fowler is a career .272 hitter that hit .300 last year so we'll see there.
I'd rather have the average and runs with SB's, Marte already has what, 10 SB's I believe, 33 runs. Fowler can hit .270 and will score around 100 runs in that offense.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 12:17 am
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:18 am to UltimateHog
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Didn't he hit like .250 last year?
Why are you selectively looking at last year's BA for Bruce and this year's stats for your guys?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:20 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
Why are you selectively looking at last year's BA for Bruce and this year's stats for your guys?
quote:
Fowler is a career .272 hitter who hit .300 last year
Marte is a rookie so...
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 12:21 am
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