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Phil Ivey accused of cheating
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:02 am
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:02 am
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What it basically says is that Phil noticed small flaws in the cards and used that to his advantage. It was at a British casino playing a game that is like baccarat. The casino let him play with as much as he wanted to and had no problem letting him keep playing when he was down. Doesn't sound like cheating to me. Sounds like he beat the system and now they won't pay him. Is this guy like some frikkin rain man that he could spot the tiniest differences in the deck. If they play with cards like blackjack, wouldn't they trade the decks out like they do here?
What it basically says is that Phil noticed small flaws in the cards and used that to his advantage. It was at a British casino playing a game that is like baccarat. The casino let him play with as much as he wanted to and had no problem letting him keep playing when he was down. Doesn't sound like cheating to me. Sounds like he beat the system and now they won't pay him. Is this guy like some frikkin rain man that he could spot the tiniest differences in the deck. If they play with cards like blackjack, wouldn't they trade the decks out like they do here?
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:03 am to vodkacop
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What it basically says is that Phil noticed small flaws in the cards and used that to his advantage
How is that cheating? Sounds like the the casino fricked up
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:04 am to vodkacop
Not the first time this has happened
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:05 am to Tiger1242
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Sounds like the the casino fricked up
This - they used the "flawed" cards...
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:05 am to Tiger1242
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How is that cheating? Sounds like the the casino fricked up
This
I guess its cheating the same way card counting is. Casinos dont like it when you frick with their advantage.
This seems like it was their problem and not his. Pay the man.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:05 am to vodkacop
Just heard this on the Dan Patrick show. Sounds like they are butthurt and don't want to pay up.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:07 am to vodkacop
Did he touch or bend the cards? If not, pay that man his money.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:08 am to vodkacop
i read that this morning like wtf, pay than man his money
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:15 am to StraightCashHomey21
This is the second story in as many weeks of people taking advantage of a casino's screw ups and them not wanting to pay out.
I don't like that they feel like they shouldn't be held responsible for their errors.
I don't like that they feel like they shouldn't be held responsible for their errors.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:19 am to vodkacop
This is fricking stupid. Is a batter in baseball cheating if he picks up on a pitcher tipping his pitches? frick no, he's just being smart.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:21 am to vodkacop
like was said in the casino story the other day by somebody here, had the roles been reversed the casino would be calling it the house advantage.
too f-ing bad if they were so dumb they had cards out that could be identified in such a way it helped Ivey win.
also, its interesting that they let him keep playing when he was down and upped his bets but as soon as he won and wanted to cash out its "Oh no, you were cheating."
too f-ing bad if they were so dumb they had cards out that could be identified in such a way it helped Ivey win.
also, its interesting that they let him keep playing when he was down and upped his bets but as soon as he won and wanted to cash out its "Oh no, you were cheating."
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:22 am to vodkacop
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Phil Ivey
Beat them.
He beat them straight up.
Pay zat man his mahnee.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:24 am to Tiger1242
quote:Im sure its illegal, just like counting cards.
How is that cheating? Sounds like the the casino fricked up
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:26 am to Billy Mays
Don't we all just wish we could go into a casino and walk out $12 million richer?
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:29 am to vodkacop
How can a player be held accountable for cards that the casino has 100% control over. Unless the casino is accusing the player of marking the cards while they were in play, the casino hasn't got a leg to stand on except to claim their games have been corrupted by casino employess for the employees illicit purposes.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:30 am to The Mick
quote:Sarcasm?
Im sure its illegal, just like counting cards.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:31 am to vodkacop
Phil Ivey is kinda like Rain Man when it comes to his powers of observation. There's a reason -- beyond just being able to calculate odds -- that he's considered the best poker player in the world.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:33 am to vodkacop
started playing at 77 grand a hand? He is OT rich
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:33 am to GeauxAggie972
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Don't we all just wish we could go into a casino and walk out $12 million richer?
Jerome does that shite on the reg.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:34 am to The Mick
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Im sure its illegal, just like counting cards.
Counting cards inst illegal
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