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re: Gordon back to Clippers a possibility? (not for CP3)

Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:20 am to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:20 am to
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No. Jordan is a functional retard that I want nowhere near a young team. The only thing he has on Lopez is athleticism.


frick. It pains me to agree with you
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32853 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:22 am to
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Your trade is actually worse than the one in the OP, and even that trade is bad for us.


Not my trade. I'm just saying that the numbers don't work with a Jordan/Bledsoe for Lopez/Gordon trade. The only way to really trade Bledsoe/Jordan for Gordon is with other players, not Lopez. That is worse than the OP trade.


Like I said though, I'm torn on the Lopez/Gordon for Jordan/Bledsoe trade (if possible). You have to like Jordan's athleticisim over Lopez and hope he grows up. He's 25 and is around that age where he could potentially put it together. Although that may never happen. I could go either way on this.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115343 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:26 am to
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I totally disagree. More minutes means you get more consistent opportunities and allows you to feel the game out better. Just like really high minutes will end up reducing efficiencies due to fatigue. This is why PER and per 36 must be used within context. 15 minutes against backups is not as challenging per minute as 42 minutes against starters.


Except when given minutes this year, his Per 36 are on par with when he WASN'T getting minutes.

You are right though...Jordan's basketball IQ is low. He's not Javale McGee by any stretch of the imagination, but it is really low.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34235 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:27 am to
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Except when given minutes this year, his Per 36 are on par with when he WASN'T getting minutes.


Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18845 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:27 am to
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a Bledsoe/Jordan for EG/Lopez deal could go down

Dell should be fired within minutes if he does this.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115343 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:30 am to
I do find it interesting that on one hand people start threads about how much they hate Gordon and would trade a ham sandwich for him...then turn down any deal that dumps Gordon and brings back somewhat functional players.

Ok, I'm done playing devil's advocate here. Deandre Jordan is not the type of player I imagine Monty wanting on his team.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10624 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:32 am to
When the hell did we start throwing demps under the bus?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34235 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:33 am to
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I do find it interesting that on one hand people start threads about how much they hate Gordon and would trade a ham sandwich for him...then turn down any deal that dumps Gordon and brings back somewhat functional players.


In fairness, I've been pretty resolute.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:35 am to
Monty+Jordan=Hilarity Ensues
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18845 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:36 am to
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. You have to like Jordan's athleticisim over Lopez and hope he grows up.

Well, you'd also like AFA's athleticism over Gallinari's, but who would you want as your SF? It gets to a point in the NBA where you can't just look at a guy's athleticism and ignore his poor body of work. I don't see Deandre really getting much better than he is currently. If he can get his head straight and is a good defensive center, it's at best a lateral move from Lopez. He also has one of the worst contracts in the league, so no thanks.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:40 am to
Well thats just great!! We give ip two types for two backups.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:41 am to
I'm all for trading Gordon for a bag of potato chips, but that's a shite trade right there
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10624 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:42 am to
Lopez and Jordan are equally backup, he is just a pelicants favorite. Bledsoe is an overly celibrated kid while gordan is an overly paid baby. Pretty even trade.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115343 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:42 am to
Damn if danman won't do it...

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34235 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:43 am to
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Well, you'd also like AFA's athleticism over Gallinari's, but who would you want as your SF?


Now that is a good analogy!
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:44 am to
Didn't say I wouldn't do it...

It is a shite trade though. But I'm not as big of a Bledsoe fan as many on here are.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34235 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:44 am to
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he is just a pelicants favorite


Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10624 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:45 am to
Lopez, molester jester. shite!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115343 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:48 am to
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Now that is a good analogy!


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here.

It is a terrible, terrible analogy.

The difference between Deandre Jordan and Lopez (not factoring in contracts) is negligible, by any argument.

The difference between Gallinari and AFA is vast...extremely vast.
Posted by MrBlue105
chillin with the BWC - anaconda
Member since Apr 2013
6602 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:48 am to
I'd like to see if lopez can put on some strength and give him another shot to hopefully show flashes of his twin. I'd also enjoy small ball at times to, that is easier to accomplish without a high contract center. I liked jordan until I saw how ineffective he is against real centers in the memphis series.
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