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LSUnKaty
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Because it doesn't comport with your prejudices, obviously.
Irony






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tigerpawl
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think the entire Benghazi thing is just to try and discredit the party in power, nothing more.
Ah yes... "discredit"... that's what they first call it ... at the beginning stages of being exposed. Can't wait till it morphs from "discredited" to "exposed".

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!"




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Lsupimp
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Everything to which you alluded in your silly post has been previously rebutted in exhaustive detail... satisfactorily.


Rexy.Rexy.Rexy.
I do love you man.
But sometimes






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TIGA 80
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The Directive was for the ambassador to create a permanent embassy in Bengazi. Why? Who knows. Maybe to set up fast and furious, Bengazi Style. That was the orders from Hillary and Obama. H & O knew it was dangerous, hell, the British pulled out after they were attacked. Our consulate had been attacked prior and H&O didnt send additional security. H&O sent the ambassador on a suicide mission. Why? It was 9/11, dont you think we should have been on high alert? Shouldnt there be an aircraft carrier group in the Med. ready to send out special forces at a moments notice to any of the embassies in the middle east? The host country is also suppose to provide security. With the money we give these countries they should have no less than a platoon at our embassies throughout the middle east.


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Wolfhound45
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I knew all of this. And it's logical to assume that they made their way to Benghazi a few times. I was just wondering if this was established fact.


There are somethings that were on the web (frustrations with not being permitted to deploy was well covered) and some I pieced together.

My apologies on the name of the individual leading the SOF element. It was Lt. Col. Gibson, not Roberts.

Still one of the best articles I have see published about the events in Benghazi;

LINK






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TheDoc
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"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East


and you expect me to believe ANYTHING else that comes out of robert gates whore mouth?

you believe this rex?

that we don't have ANY forces standing by in the middle east?

tell me, do you believe that?






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Ponchy Tiger
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Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous


This is the most idiotic thing I have heard in awhile. This is the exact type of situation that these specialized troops are designed and trained to do.






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Wolfhound45
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I knew all of this. And it's logical to assume that they made their way to Benghazi a few times. I was just wondering if this was established fact.


Here you go. Testimony from Lt. Col. Woods on his mission;

LINK

I would assume this was the mission that Lt. Col. Gibson assumed after the departure of Lt. Col. Woods.






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mmcgrath
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If you read this carefully you'll see he's lying. Sending a low flying aircraft above the speed of sound over the area, which is SOP for 'protest', would have done no harm and may have saved 4 lives. Can't you see that.?
I doubt Stevens and Smith would have been saved even under your scenario.






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goatmilker
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Aside from the attack response angle that Gates just blew to bits,


Yes it very much blew rex. Vile and ignorant as always.
I would never wish to be on the ground and in trouble with your boy gates calling the shots.
I would pray for the speed and decisivness of a Gen McClellan before that stooge.






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Lsupimp
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Did we know in advance when Stephens/Smith would be murdered? Did we know it would take 4 hours, 6 hours, 8 hours ? When your personnel are UNDER ATTACK, you send help. Especially when you have assets in-country AND a special forces relatively nearby.

They didn't see it as a NATIONAL SECURITY problem.
They didn't see it a an issue of defending sovreign ground.
They didn't see it as a policy problem.
IMHO,They saw it as a POLITICAL PROBLEM, viewed it from the lens of a heated Presidential campaign, and left those guys to burn, and then lied their asses off to confuse the issue.
The White House and The State Department defended Obama and Clinton.
They left the Americans on the ground to die alone.
They stood down to conform with a political strategy and then had to jump through about 100 hoops to make it all look plausible.
It failed and they are exposed for who they are.






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No their on Clinton's arse because that sorry arse bitch looked like a crazy person saying " what does it matter now" . I wonder if it woulda mattered if it was her child who had just been killed? frick Robert Gates. Him saying anything other than this would us been news. Rex the truth is fixing to come out. The media is even turning now. Some demo rat better take the sword for Hillary are that bitch is done.


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Choctaw
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to send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous


Don't you think the administration should've had this intelligence? Especially considering they had been begging for help prior to he attacks?

I don't expect you to answer any of this btw






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NHTIGER
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I doubt Stevens and Smith would have been saved even under your scenario.


They were dead very early on. Smith's dead body was carried from the consulate to the annex, while Stevens was almost certainly dead when the Libyans dragged him off to the hospital after the good guys left for the annex.






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Choctaw
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Rex starts thread....Rex gets destroyed. It's a Poli Board tradition





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Lsupimp
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But we didn't KNOW who was alive or dead until much later.We knew they needed help and it was denied.





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real
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Rex what's sad is that it always seems liberals like yourself will back your guy no matter what the issue is. I believe most on here including myself would want the truth to come out no matter who may be president. You fricking liberals don't hold your own people up to the standards you ya'll others should achieve. They have a word for that and I don't have to say it.


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Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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Rex what's sad is that it always seems liberals like yourself will back your guy no matter what the issue is. I believe most on here including myself would want the truth to come out no matter who may be president. You fricking liberals don't hold your own people up to the standards you they others should achieve. They have a word for that and I don't have to say it.








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NHTIGER
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But we didn't KNOW who was alive or dead until much later.We knew they needed help and it was denied.



My statement does not disagree with yours.

As my post shows, I was directly addressing these words: "I doubt Stevens and Smith would have been saved even under your scenario." Nothing more.






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Lsupimp
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Affirmative.
Gotcha.
Roger that.
10-4 good buddy.






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