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There's just no possible way that the people saying that "Kanye sucks" or "Kanye is the most overrated act since The Beatles" have actually listened to MBDTF in its entirety. That album is a masterpiece. It's both the most ambitious mainstream hip-hop album ever made,and the best produced.

I absolutely have. i think Kanye is good. I like Kanye, and I really like he's outsized ego, which is honestly pretty funny. Besides, we need more rock stars who act like rock stars. I've got no problems with that.

I'm pointing out that he is literally the most critically praised artist of ALL TIME, and that's a little absurd. No one, not even Dylan, has had such critical consensus not just of his greatness, but of his being superior to every other current act. I don't blame him for being an egotist, he's had more sunshine blown up his arse than any artist in the history of pop music.

Most ambitious hip hop album ever? Really? Paul's Boutique never happened? The Chronic? Low End theory? Revolution Eternal? Black Star? It Takes a Nation of Millions? Madvillainy? I mean, it's ambitious, I agree. It's just not uniquely ambitious. It's that kind of overpraise that I find obnoxious. Kanye can't be really good, he has to be the best ever.

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Posted by Buddy Garrity

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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:10 pm to Baloo

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I'm pointing out that he is literally the most critically praised artist of ALL TIME, and that's a little absurd.

I don't see how you formed this opinion

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Posted by trillhog

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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:17 pm to Baloo

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I'm pointing out that he is literally the most critically praised artist of ALL TIME, and that's a little absurd.

i agree with this, i think he's brilliant in his genre, but so are many others in other genres, he just has a nack for getting media attention and that's really all it is.

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You can lyrically nitpick for any artist, including Kanye and Jay Z

i love that lyric, not nitpicking.

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Posted by bobbyray21

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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:36 pm to Baloo

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I'm pointing out that he is literally the most critically praised artist of ALL TIME, and that's a little absurd. No one, not even Dylan, has had such critical consensus not just of his greatness, but of his being superior to every other current act. I don't blame him for being an egotist, he's had more sunshine blown up his arse than any artist in the history of pop music.

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Most ambitious hip hop album ever? Really? Paul's Boutique never happened? The Chronic? Low End theory? Revolution Eternal? Black Star? It Takes a Nation of Millions? Madvillainy? I mean, it's ambitious, I agree. It's just not uniquely ambitious. It's that kind of overpraise that I find obnoxious. Kanye can't be really good, he has to be the best ever.

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But you don't actually think that, right? I mean you mentioned Bob Dylan, and I'm certain he could put out an album with 80 minutes of his armpit farts and it would get five stars across the board from every music critic and their cousin.

Radiohead could smack their cocks from thigh to thigh for 80 minutes. Same result.

I'm sure we could come up with others.

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I stand by my statement. It was an album that was unquestionably designed to be a groundbreaking album. And he pulled it off.

I'm not sure if I love your examples of other ambitious rap albums. Well, they're okay, but i would put Speakerboxx/The Love Below ahead of them in the ambitiousness department.

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